Israel welcomes new talks with Iran

2012-03-07 16:02

Jerusalem - A top adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has cautiously welcomed an upcoming round of talks between six world powers and Iran over its suspect nuclear programme.

Netanyahu's security adviser Yaakov Amidror said on Wednesday that Israel is "very happy" to hear of the negotiations. But he said "without a real military alternative", Iran is unlikely to give up its nuclear programme.

Israel believes Iran is trying to produce a nuclear weapon and has said military action should be considered to stop the Iranians.

President Barack Obama told the visiting Netanyahu this week that diplomacy must be given more time.

Iran says its nuclear programme is for peaceful purposes.

  • goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 16:46

    I don't see the difference between the Arab world wanting to 'wipe out Israel' and Israel wanting to 'take military action against Iran' for having nukes. 2 Sides of the same coin.

      Fred - 2012-03-07 17:17

      There's a huge difference. But then again, unless you've changed your thinking, you believe the Rothschilds are a driving force behind evil the world. :) The rogue Iranian regime is oppressive, thinks nothing of having women stoned to death for being attractive, funds terrorism, denies the existence of the Holocaust, the single biggest attempt at human genocide in human history, and routinely threatens to eliminate Israel. It also uses the Palestinians to distract Iranians from their lack of human rights. It will NEVER be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, nor should it.

      Fred - 2012-03-07 18:09

      Muedes/Gollum, you believe the same tripe as goyougoodyhing. You're both bellwethers for wrong thinking. If only you knew how foolish you make yourselves when you believe the Rothschilds of all people control central banks and are an evil force. They hardly feature in work's financial circles nowadays. And central banks are controlled by governments, not individuals. Delusional beyond description. The rest of your denials follow from this absurd starting point.

      Fred - 2012-03-07 18:10

      Muedes/Gollum, you believe the same tripe as goyougoodyhing. You're both bellwethers for wrong thinking. If only you knew how foolish you make yourselves when you believe the Rothschilds of all people control central banks and are an evil force. They hardly feature in the world's financial circles nowadays. And central banks are controlled by governments, not individuals. Delusional beyond description. The rest of your denials follow from this absurd starting point.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 18:46

      Fred, the central banks are PRIVATE, this is documented. The US Federal Reserve is the 3rd such rendition, going back to the 1st and 2nd Banks of America and finally the Federal Reserve in 1913. This is the same in every nation, except the Arab countries which seem to be at the centre of every 'problem' in this world. Why you can't for a moment think that the family that controlled the formulation of the Central Banks all over the globe and had a hand in the formation of Israel through the Balfour Declaration would somehow just disappear is ludicrous beyond belief. If they were worth, by all reports, $600 Million at the turn of the 20th century it's laughable beyond belief to think that their wealth now sits at the 1.4 billion reported by Forbes. You continue to berate with no substance nor fact to your dismissal and hostile attacks upon any and all who don't share your bent world view. Either you can't see that the issue is deeper than you think or you are so blindsided by 'Israel' that you have the proverbial log in your eye. The nation is not the big problem, the control of it is. They say Israel is America's 51st state, I say America is Israels 2nd state. Until you have any substance to your rantings, I'm not going to engage with your nonsense.

      Anthony - 2012-03-07 19:25

      yougoodfornothing, "Until you have any substance to your rantings, I'm not going to engage with your nonsense" And THAT you say after 873 words !!!!.............Hallo !!!!!!!!

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 19:47

      I am touched that Africa read and counted my post word count. it is a pity there is no substance to the rest of the reply. Still no facts just name calling.

      Anthony - 2012-03-07 20:08

      goodfornothing Itold you what I think of you with your SICK comment re the Mocambique border

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 20:12

      I think crocodiles on the border would be fantastic. They are cheap to keep, feed themselves and don't take bribes. They are the exact opposite of a government official.

      Fred - 2012-03-07 20:13

      That's exactly what I mean. You think central banks are private. This is ridiculous. But carry on. This kind of delusion keeps you way out of the sphere of influence, which is better for the world.

      Anthony - 2012-03-07 20:13

      Patrick, There is not to much to comment with your hollow posts, That you don't like America we know now, you have been telling us this 15 times a day for the last 3 months. Nothing besides that, it is utterrly BORING !!!!

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 20:17

      Even the Wiki admits they are private, at least in part "The Federal Reserve System's structure is composed of the presidentially appointed Board of Governors (or Federal Reserve Board), the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC), twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks located in major cities throughout the nation, numerous privately owned U.S. member banks and various advisory councils" Enough. Do your own research. If private member banks are not private then what are they?

      Fred - 2012-03-07 20:22

      Carry on Gollum/Muedes. Stay there on the delusional perimeter. It's better for us.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 20:27

      Leon, I don't recall making any comment about a soldier, and certainly not about a poor dog. Dogs are wonderful and they don't carry guns.

      Anthony - 2012-03-07 20:42

      @Leon Alberts, Leon, that comment re the British soldiers, did not come from this goodfornothing character It came from that RACIST Fidel, that chick with all that self importance, bloated with HATRED. I agree with you, to make a comment like that , you are nothing more than GUTTER RUBBISH !!!!!!!

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 20:55

      Fred, is Wiki wrong about the Fed? What about: - This is the HOME of the SA reserve, on this page is states it is privately owned. I quote: Since its establishment, the Reserve Bank has always been privately owned. Today the Bank has more than 660 shareholders and its shares are traded on an Over- the-Counter Share Transfer Facility market (OTCSTF market) co-ordinated within the Reserve Bank. Except for the provision of the SA Reserve Bank Act that no shareholder shall hold, or hold in aggregate with his, her or its associates, more than 10 000 shares of the total number of 2 000 000 issued shares, there is no limitation on shareholding." Care to comment, Fred?

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 21:10

      What was that Leon? An apology for insulting the wrong person? Oh, it's okay, really, don't worry about it.

      Anthony - 2012-03-07 21:24

      goodfornothing Someone apologizing to YOU??????? After you make such a SICK comment; "Rather cull the people, we seem to be the ones over populating, not the animals" You should team up with that other RACIST full of HATRED=Fidel!!!!

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 21:29

      Africa, let's look at sentence structure: "cull people". People refers to all people. "We are the ones overpopulating" We includes the author. If We and People make me racist then I must 'hate myself'??? Hmmm. Last time I checked I was quite happy with myself, and was quite aware that a single child is more than sufficient for my family in terms of money and time resources. Is this hateful and racist? I don't think so.

      Jaba - 2012-03-07 22:01

      in that case u r blind goyoubadthing

      Anthony - 2012-03-07 22:02

      @goodfornothing, What bullsh.tters are very good at, is to confuse. Like in Libya, they went on 24/7 about OIL Now its all about Central Banks !! And you want to confuse about that I call you a Racist. You made a comment, re crocodile culling "PEOPLE" at the Mocambique border; I think crocodiles on the border would be fantastic. They are cheap to keep, feed themselves and don't take bribes. They are the exact opposite of a government official. To my mind, only a disturbed RACIST, will make a comment like this!! As I say, go and hook up with this RACIST==Fidel , you will make a great team together; You seem to have a problem with Blacks, and she HATES Whites !!!!

      Hoosen Essa - 2012-03-08 03:38

      this fred character is a simpleton. i noticed many of his comments he argues but he lacks the knowledge of the subject at hand. for eg, he makes a comment about iran invading iraq, when history dictates that it was iraq that invaded iran, now instead of doing research on the subject, he chooses to argue. my advise is to ignore him and not engage in any debate with him. its like talking to Julius Malema

      Fred - 2012-03-08 05:46

      If that is what I wrote, it was a typo. I think if you will look at the other messages I've posted about the Iran/Iraq war (and there are many) you will see that I say Saddam Hussein invaded Iran. Saddam Hussein obviously was the unelected dictator of Iraq. But you know, Hoosen, for you to draw such a big conclusion from one small error, and for you to make a recommendation for others to ignore me, is clearly and more truly reflective of YOUR unwillingness to research my other posts, and YOUR desire to argue. On another note, I'd like to know what do you think of the car bombs and suicide attacks that the extremists in your midst plant in public places, with the clear intention to kill and maim as many civilians as possible, and which have caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa and elsewhere. I'd like to know this so I can understand where you stand on an issue such as this.

      Fred - 2012-03-10 07:45

      All commercial banks in a country are expected to have a token shareholding in the central bank. This is meant to reflect acceptance of the policies of the government, that actually controls the bank and sets monetary policy. In the case of the SARB, for example, a dividend all of 10 cents per share is declared annually. A token dividend just to reflect the incorporated status of the bank. It has nothing to do with the bank being private. This is further faulty thinking on your part.

  • James - 2012-03-07 16:57

    This Iran wanting to wipe out Isr. is BS. What Ahmadinijad said was."This regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time" See Pravda

      Anthony - 2012-03-07 17:18

      Ohhhhhh, if it was in Pravda, than it MUST be true!!!!!!

      Fred - 2012-03-07 17:19

      See my above comment for the true situation. You're obviously trying too distract from the oppressive, dishonest Iranian regime's true intentions regarding Israel.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 19:52

      What does the dishonesty of Iran or any other nation have to do with the equal dishonesty of Israel. They are not dependent on each other.

      Fred - 2012-03-07 20:17

      In your mind an oppressive terrorist regime that thinks nothing of stoning women to death for being attractive, routinely threatens to destroy Israel, denies the occurrence of the single biggest attempt at genocide in human history, adjusts election redults, and abuses the Palestinian people to hold onto power is acceptible, worthy of support and should have nuclear weapons.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 20:23

      Probably not. Their neighbour should not either, or should be accept the way they treat Palestinians, segregate them, make them carry passes and run an apartheid state? Neither is good, because one is wrong does not make the other right. Stop being selective with your comprehension.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 20:31

      Patrick it's all selective (un) reasoning with this lot. They like guns, but only when they hold them. They call people names and would shoot them but denounce any who use words to back up their stories.

      Danny - 2012-03-07 20:43

      @ Patrick - I'm interested to know your stance on gun licences - should every citizen in South Africa be free to own guns? Just curious. @goyougoodthing - you talk about words being used to back up your stories (or idealisms, you choose) but if you had to look at all the conflict in the world today, you'd probably find that in a large majority of them there is a common factor - work it out for yourself

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 20:50

      Danny, totally. I don't have any idealisms as such. I don't care for the governments of this world, nor the religions, they are all run by men and are therefore not great in many ways. I have no side and yet this does not stop me from being able to look at the truth that exists. Muslim/Jew/Christian/Other, they all fight because of the same reasons and yet blame the other for being like them What I did ask for, and am yet to get, is a decent, factual answer to things such as who owns the reserve banks, I get mere name calling. I ask what is the difference between 2 sides with shady pasts both having or not having nuclear weapons and I get called an anti Jew, even though half my family is Jewish, including my brother and my mother's side. That is all I ask. I have not called anyone names, but they get thrown at me. You want to see problems in the world - intolerance of other points of view is top of my list.

      Danny - 2012-03-07 20:51

      @ Patrick again - the microchip in your computer that you're using now is also because of Israel. Tell you what, to show your disdain for Israel why don't you quickly look up what products have come out of Israel and then cease using them. In fact, that little gem was proposed a few years ago and when people realised what Israel has actually contributed to the world it suddenly went quiet.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 20:59

      @Danny, Israel isn't the problem, nor is the outstanding intellectual contributions of Jewish scholars and scientists (more than any other 'race/nation/faith' or whatever) than any other by a large distance. The point is about a particular stalemate and agressive acts, on both sides, and yet there are 2 standards applied. This is naughty.

      Danny - 2012-03-07 21:01

      @goyougoodthing - fair points you are making. I was responding to your point about dealing with conflict with words, and some of the posters on this subject deal with words which are either half truth or completely untrue, hence the overly aggressive responses (you can not debate points when truths are not used). Additionally, many posters on here using words to justify much of what is occurring the the middle east are failing to see that in most conflict there is a common factor. Even through Africa currently (Somalia, Sudan, Nigeria, Kenya, Egypt) that common factor prevails.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 21:03

      The guy who invented the World Wide Web protocol, as we know it, is a Christian, Tim Berners-Lee. HE gave it away free, every since then, Jewish people have made money from it :-) This is tongue-in-cheek, but also kinda true!

      Danny - 2012-03-07 21:07

      @goyougoodthing - again, fair points. Quick question - what would you do if your neighour threatened to attack you? People need to understand that the levels of hatred towards Israel from many of its neighbours are high and that Israel is a state in a nervous disposition, without the threat of nuclear so now imagine what nuclear capabilities does to that disposition

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 21:07

      Danny you are so correct. We live in a divided world. It seems the more technology brings us together, our points of view drive us apart. The story of Babel rings very true. We can't get along it seems.

      Danny - 2012-03-07 21:09

      @goyougoodthing - everyone has benefitted, financially and not from the internet. It's like saying that VW, a contributor to the Nazi regime in WW2, benefitted from American Henry Ford's invention of the motor car - ironic!

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 21:16

      Danny, I must admit, 99 times out of 100 I deal with people. But there has been an occasion where I have met with incredibly agressive, unreasonable people. It's not a great feeling. In the case of the middle east though, I really, honestly feel that Israel has played as much a part in the agitation as the other side(s) so none can hide behind the 'innocent me' tag. Personally I don't think anyone is adult enough to have weapons sharper than twigs, but there you go. I don't have a solution, I know that neither side will agree, but stockpiling weapons is a bad idea. But if one can have, then the other too. Like buying candy for children. But yeah, it's an ideological thing, and we know where ideologies lead, usually.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 21:20

      I was being silly about the WWW, incidentally, Mr Ford invented the mass production line, not the internal combustion engine, that was the German Karl Benz - yes another Jewish overachiever :-)

      Danny - 2012-03-07 21:29

      @ Patrick - erm, you. Israel is not the reason that petrol is increasing in price. There are more sides to that story. The reason that I felt the need to respond is because it is low level commentary like that (petrol is high, it's Israel's fault) that causes so much conflict to start with ("you don't have a job, blame the whites", "there is so much crime, blame the blacks" springs to mind)

      Danny - 2012-03-07 21:38

      @Patrick - another of News24's finest - I'm looking forward to your next shallow dig. @goyougoodthing - Patrick's comment above - point in question

      goyougoodthing - 2012-03-07 21:46

      Patrick, Israel is merely a tool, as is the USA, of the banking elite. They want control of the central banks of the Middle East. The slight problem is even if they had control, Islam prevents INTEREST bearing loans. This does not work for them. Start a war, blame Israel, blame anyone, they don't care.

      Danny - 2012-03-07 21:49

      Mubarak was apparently a puppet of the West. He has been out of power for a year now and there are already uprisings against the new regime. So, once again, let me elaborate on the common factor

      Jaba - 2012-03-07 22:16

      Know this....Israel will also be playing for keeps. Understanding Irans full intent to destroy Israel in a retaliatory stoke makes the decision process that much easier. For those of you who do not fully understand I will make this plain and simple. The debate isnt about IF to bomb Iranian nuke's about how severly to bomb them so Iran is incapable of managing a coordinated response.

      Anthony - 2012-03-07 22:19

      Patrick, you have told us now 50 times in the last 48 hours, that "Israel is the 51st state of the USA" ++++++++++++++IT IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BORING+++++++++++++++++++ One falls asleep trying to read your posts. Please have an early nite, and think of SOMETHING different. Even if you tell us tomorrow, Israel is the 52nd state of the USA. THAT would already be an approvement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Fred - 2012-03-09 07:54

      Patrick, you'd be talking about Palestine as a country if the UNELECTED, self-serving, violent dictators of the Middle East really cared about the Palestinians. The Palestinians have only ever needed a few neighborhoods. Literally. Think about it. Why did these dictators not give the Palestinians the tiny piece of land they needed, from the vast land at their disposal, virtually a whole continent? Why did they choose instead to spend decades funneling billions of dollars worth of arms to them, and incite them to attack Israel. Why? In what way did this serve these dictators?

  • Jaba - 2012-03-07 22:11

    Scenario Planning: All possibilities must be looked into. To solve a Rubik's Cube you need to see all the sides and then work out the algorithms and moves necessary. The doomsday scenario is if Iran enriches uranium secretly and a critical threshold is reached in the next thirty days. This will result in preventative action being taken by the USA and/or Israel by the middle of April. It really is all about the intention of various parties now. On this score events of the past week are moving in a promising direction. In hope that the crazy Ayatola's have had enough of AchMADjad

      Fred - 2012-03-08 05:49

      Ayahtolla Khomeini is really the ruler of Iran. He is the "Supreme Leader" as these fundamentalist regimes like to call their leaders. They make them close to God. Ahmadinejad answers to Khomeini. Change would have to come from or at that level.

      Jaba - 2012-03-08 08:23

      Well then let us hope that the hate (Ayatollahs) face from planet earth, especially from the Arab world takes precedence and they throw away the idea of gaining nuclear weapons. Saudi, Qatar, UAE, Oman, Iraq etc are all against a nuclear Iran just as much as Israel is.

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