Israel won't freeze settlements: Lieberman

2013-01-24 14:00

Jerusalem - A new Israeli government led by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will not freeze construction of Jewish settlements in the West Bank, former foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman said on Thursday.

Lieberman's nationalist Israel Beteinu and Netanyahu's right-wing Likud party ran jointly in Tuesday's election and won most seats in the 120-strong parliament.

"We are not willing to accept any dictations on the issue of a freeze," Lieberman told Israel Radio. "There won't be a freeze, not in Jerusalem and not in Judea and Samaria," he added, using the Biblical terms for the West Bank.

Peace talks have been frozen since September 2010 after Netanyahu refused a demand by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to extend a partial 10-month settlement freeze in the West Bank. Netanyahu has said he is ready to negotiate without conditions.

Lieberman said a Netanyahu-led government would focus on socio-economic issues, which were a main theme in the election and gave rise to a new, centrist party that campaigned on a platform of reducing the high cost of living.

'Internal problems first'

Yair Lapid, a former television anchorman whose Yesh Atid party came in second with 19 seats, has emerged as a key player in future coalition talks. He wants to scrap exemption from military service for ultra-Orthodox Jews and to renew peace talks with Palestinians.

"The agenda must be to first of all deal with internal problems," Lieberman said.

"At the end of the day, we really want to reach here an agreement for peace," Lieberman said, "But if the other side doesn't want this, that's its problem."

Netanyahu's previous coalition government included right-wing and nationalist parties opposed to a settlement freeze in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, land the Palestinians want for a future state.

  • larry.lachman.54 - 2013-01-24 14:32

    And there you have it.

      simphiwe.charlie.5 - 2013-01-24 20:31

      yes, they just can't break the habbit of stealing.

      hilton.serman.5 - 2013-01-24 22:46

      Simphewe remember that Gd gave all of the land to the Jews. This is beyond dispute. Israel should give part of that land away to secure doubt. But it needs a peace partner and whilst the Palestinians are seeking unilateral outcomes and refusing to recognize Israel's right to exist then Israel has nobody to negotiate with.

      hilton.serman.5 - 2013-01-24 22:51

      Simphewe also remember that Israel only captured land from Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon. Neither of these is asking for land back from Israel. Only the Palestinians...the displaced Arabs that lived in Israel who gave up their homes when the invading Arab armies promised them their Jewish neighbors homes once Israel is annihilated in 1967. This is beyond dispute. These were the Arabs that the neighboring Arab countries refused to take in once they lost the war. Can't steal what belongs to you

      hilton.serman.5 - 2013-01-24 22:54 last point. Would it surprise you if I told you there as many Jewish heritage sites in the West Bank as there are Arab/Muslim sites. I'd say that gives Jews a land claim. Pls also see how many mosque's are built on top of Jewish heritage sites. If its built on top...who was there first???

      simphiwe.charlie.5 - 2013-01-25 06:43

      @Hilton, when you can prove the existance of your Gd you can claim the land he supposedly gave you. And if it is rightfully yours, then how come you've had to immigrate from foreign lands to claim it? You're adding lies to your stealing.

  • dave.kofang - 2013-01-24 14:42

    This people want war at all cost.But if they want it,they'll get it.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2013-01-24 14:43

      Lowest common denominator.

      hengu.willemse - 2013-01-24 15:40

      @dave.kofan, and who's going to fight them, you?! leave those people to tend to their own problems and focus that creative energy of yours in making your own country a better place, you can start by not shooting off your mouth about things you know nothing off.

      avremel.niselow - 2013-01-24 15:41

      Well said Hengu.

      fidel.uncensored - 2013-01-24 16:26

      @Hengu The Palestinian issue is emotional to me because I can empathise with their suffering and hardships. Who knows it feels it, except psychopaths!

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2013-01-24 17:15

      Fidel, Do you also get emotional when your hero, this assad monster, drops a few bombs on a residential area, and now KILLS about 200 Syrians a day !!! I am sorry, I don't like the word 'bullsh.tter', but thats exactly what you are !!!

  • - 2013-01-24 16:03

    I am of the belief that the Settlements are unconstructive for Israel (this does not include Jerusalem which is the eternal and undivided capital of the state of Israel) - however, as long as the Palestinians refuse to negotiate peace, Israeli politicians have no other choice but to keep building Israel. On the one hand you have Hamas that calls for the murder of all Jews and refuses to negotiate with Jews - because their holy Koran calls Jews apes and dogs. On the other hand you have the PA who knows that peace will end the charity they receive from the world, the PA has become so reliant on hand-outs and so comfortable being lazy, that they look for any reason to collapse negotiations soon after they start. Israel has no option but to build on the disputed land. Remember this land does not belong to Palestinians, neither does it belong to Israel - it is disputed land that Israel legally captured in a defensive war. Palestinians build in the West Bank just like Israelis build there – and rightfully so.

      fidel.uncensored - 2013-01-24 16:25

      "On the other hand you have the PA who knows that peace will end the charity they receive from the world, the PA has become so reliant on hand-outs and so comfortable being lazy, that they look for any reason to collapse negotiations soon after they start." Ditto Israel's reliance on the US for security reasons as this conflict ensures that the dollars keep coming. What does Hamas has do to with land stealing in the West Bank?

      linds.ronhouse - 2013-01-24 16:27

      It was Israel that took a hard line and the ultra right wing Netanyahu flatly refused to negotiate with the Palestinians. - 2013-01-24 16:40

      No land is stolen fidel - its disputed, and will remain so until the PA is ready to negotiate. This is a 6 minutes long video - if you take the time to watch you will understand why I support Israel – my support has nothing to do with neither religion nor politics.

      fidel.uncensored - 2013-01-24 16:49

      "No land is stolen fidel - its disputed, and will remain so until the PA is ready to negotiate." The required distance in the context of negotiating a state for the Palestinian people is, at the very least, a halt to the annexation of that very state. Palestinians are not refusing to negotiate. They are just asking the Israelis to stop changing facts on the ground (by building settlements) so that they can sit and talk. Not unreasonable AT ALL. If that is too much for Israel to accept, it only illustrates that they are just wasting time and want to use peace talk as a fig leaf. “Israel takes more land [so] that the Palestinian state will be impossible . . . the Israel policy is to take more and more land day after day and that at the end of the day we’ll say that is impossible, we already have the land and we cannot create the state”. -Tzipi Livni She conceded that it had been “the policy of the government for a really long time”.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2013-01-24 17:48

      . Syrians are not refusing to negotiate. They are just asking the Syrian regime to get assad , out of THEIR country ,so that they can sit and talk. Not unreasonable AT ALL. If that is too much for the Syrian regime, to accept, it only illustrates that they are just wasting time and want to use peace talk as a fig leaf.

      dominic.goller.9 - 2013-01-24 17:55

      @fidel, israel stopped building settlements for a period of 9 months to give peace talks a chance, the Pa didnt come to any peace talks , after those nine months were over the PA then demanded israel not continue building on settlements before they talk peace, why didnt they talk during those 9 months? oh and thats all known fact too

      fidel.uncensored - 2013-01-24 22:21

      @Dominic It was not that big a deal to not build for six or nine months, but the planning that takes a long time. That was the bottleneck.

      fidel.uncensored - 2013-01-25 01:17

      @Hilton "No land is stolen fidel - its disputed, and will remain so until the PA is ready to negotiate." If Israel insists on defining the West Bank as "disputed territory", then it can have no objections to the Palestinians and the Iranians defining Israel (proper) as "disputed territory".

      themba.mazibuko.7587 - 2013-01-25 13:46

      @fiddle - Your understanding of the situation and international law is retarded. You do know that the Ottoman Turk empire lost the war ? Do you understand what happens when a country loses a war ?

      fidel.uncensored - 2013-01-25 16:06

      The year is 2013 and not 1917, and this goes to show why people should never underestimate the need to be part of the crowd, and the power of group think to overcome common-sense and thoughtfulness. Your argument is almost ingenious in its ignorant stupidity!

  • jojo.balela.1 - 2013-01-24 16:17

    Title should read: Israel won't stop the obstacle to Peace

  • linds.ronhouse - 2013-01-24 16:25

    And the South African zionists and their sympathisers still believe that Israel is the victim in the Middle East conflit! Soon the world will wake up.

      simphiwe.charlie.5 - 2013-01-24 20:36

      we can only hope and pray.

      hilton.serman.5 - 2013-01-24 22:42

      Linds...always Israel's fault. Haniyah today announced the establishment of a military academy in Gaza " this academy must establish and prepare children for the establishment of a Palestinian state from the river to the sea". Sound like a peace partner to you. Tibi, Zouabi and zahalka ( these are the Arab members of the Knesset ) advocate the elimination of the enemy state of Israel and the establishment of the state of Palestine in its place. Sound like peace partners to you. Linds, tell me what the yellow shape in the fatah emblem represents and then tell me if you'd make peace with them. But you's all Israel's fault.

      themba.mazibuko.7587 - 2013-01-25 13:57

      Please give your definition of a zionist ?

  • fidel.uncensored - 2013-01-24 16:29

    Avremel, lucky for you the mods have removed Michael's post as I had listed subsidiaries of the news networks for the three major media companies I named. I guess we'll have to live that in abeyance!

      avremel.niselow - 2013-01-24 16:33

      As his post was blatant anti semitism and you supported it, I say well done.

      fidel.uncensored - 2013-01-24 16:45

      Actually it was factual as I pointed out. If stating facts makes me anti-Semitic, so be it!

      avremel.niselow - 2013-01-24 16:49

      Read this, while it is true that there is Jewish ownership of sections of the media to claim that there is some kind of conspiracy amongst them is an acknowledged form of anti semitism. Hence the deletion.

      fidel.uncensored - 2013-01-24 16:56

      I did provide a disclaimer about my non interests in engaging in so called conspiracies about Zionist media manipulation. But the facts are irrefutable, they do own a big chunk of US media. In fact US media is made of six major corporation, the three I left out being Viacom, NewsCorp and Star World (Century Fox). The other three Jewish owned being; Time Warner Walt Disney CBS There is more than enough merit in that argument!

      avremel.niselow - 2013-01-24 17:21

      @michael I assume that you read my link and as such are happy to continue to express your anti semitism.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2013-01-24 18:00

      Fidel, SIX major media corpoarations !! WOW, That is great. AND China=====ONE !!! Russia====ONE !!!

      avremel.niselow - 2013-01-24 20:30

      Patrick, Michael made a bigoted remark about Jews, hence the discussion.

      fidel.uncensored - 2013-01-24 20:32

      Anthony, go play in little your amoeba pond where you may actually be classified as clever. The adults are trying to have a serious discussion here!

      hilton.serman.5 - 2013-01-24 22:18 a stone a stone. Trying to separate Jews from Israel is like trying to separate Muslims from the Haj. It's impossible...the two are interchangeable.

      hilton.serman.5 - 2013-01-24 22:33

      Fidel are you trying to stop Jews from getting jobs. Jews are free to work in whatever industry they choose. Alan Dershowitz "just because many Jews work in the media, doesn't mean they are working together in a conspiracy. As a matter of fact when it comes to Israel there is a deep divide in opinion and this opinion is heavily evident in such programs and publication." Nice try Fidel.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2013-01-24 22:38

      Fidel, Spewing out HATRED-RACISM AND FILTH, is NOT a discussion!! It is YOUR favourite hobby !!!!

      fidel.uncensored - 2013-01-24 22:57

      You must have a twisted definition of "hatred-racism and filth". The funny part is that the person/s I'm having a discussion with (Avremel) hasn't accused me of any of your nonsense. Nor has Larry, Hilton, Doberman, because unlike you, they are able to provide counter-arguments and aren't as intellectually deficient as you are... So crawl back under the rock where you came from and stop annoying adults! Hilton, I have no idea what you are talking about. You can twist and distort what I've said as much as you like, the way I have come to my opinion is easily legible.

      duncan.gill1 - 2013-01-24 23:32

      HATRED-RACISM AND FILTH......... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh aaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh splutter choke gasp..!!!

      themba.mazibuko.7587 - 2013-01-25 14:05

      @fiddle the news media companies you listed are all PUBLIC companies which means anybody can own shares.

  • duncan.gill1 - 2013-01-24 18:05

    One day when Israel has war on it's borders,chaos internally and the whole world against it!Then Israel must not complain must not cry for help or expect any from anyone..then Israel will reap what it has sown..weep bitter tears because of it's's children will be slaughtered it's citizens blown apart by's people dying as casualties of war!Then Israel will know the one bitter truth that it cannot evade..that it will have to confront in it's desperate time of need.."It's all our fault how did we come to this!" Unfortunately no one will hear and no one will this once brilliant talented people pay the terrible cost for their stupidity!

      hilton.serman.5 - 2013-01-24 22:12's been 18m against 1.5billion for over 5700 years. Why would Israel be defeated now. Gd is the protector of the Jews and Israel and will continue to do so for all time. Best of luck to Israel's enemies.

      hilton.serman.5 - 2013-01-24 22:16

      Why should Israel's citizens and children be hurt...or is this your own desire. Or it it suddenly acceptable to target these groups. Oh the irony of being a hypocrite. Your comments are disturbing. Do you want peace or war...please disclose. Never ceases to amaze me how much hatred there is of Jews from Palestinians. Amazing how you never hear Jews say that they wish Palestinian children and civilians are hurt. What a disgrace you are!!!

      hilton.serman.5 - 2013-01-24 22:17

      When Palestinians are taught to build there own state rather than to destroy Israel, they will build a legacy for their children.

      duncan.gill1 - 2013-01-24 23:30

      "it's been 18m against 1.5billion for over 5700 years" Sounds like to me one massive persecution complex and if so well they don't help matters by behaving as they do they?

      jeremy.bard.31 - 2013-01-25 00:01

      Hilty, you appear to have an incredibly warped sense history or you are pretty poor at exaggeration. 1.5bn?? of whom?? 5700 yrs?? I do certainly admire the resilience of the Jews through centuries of persecution (by whom????), but really, where was your Gd's protection when 6m Jews perished at the hands of a madman. Zionism is a disease, .... and you are infected. Forget the fairytale old chap - 'cos it's only a matter of time before this disease engulfs and destroys its victims. And the path chosen by the zio-nuts is heading inexorably in this direction. And yes, sadly it is the innocent that will suffer the same fate. But this time the world will remember, and history books will record .... that the zio-nuts brought it upon themselves. tick...tock...tick...tock....

      themba.mazibuko.7587 - 2013-01-25 14:15

      @jeremy Zionism is a disease ? Well I hope you suffer a painful life over it. Your rhetoric is typical of a person filled with illogical hate. tick .. that another suicide bomber ??

      simphiwe.charlie.5 - 2013-01-25 15:50

      @Hilton, if Gd is the protector of the Jews, what about the rest of us? Anyway if that fairy tale were true he'd need sychiatric help.

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