Police, youths face off in London

2011-08-08 22:20

London - Riot police faced off with youths in fresh violence in London on Monday in the third day of disorder after some of the worst rioting in the British capital in years at the weekend.

Scores of young people gathered in a main street in the eastern district of Hackney, smashing up buildings and breaking into a truck that became stranded in the middle of the road, pulling out its contents, pictures showed.

Several parked cars were torched before police in riot gear arrived to push back the youths, an AFP reporter at the scene said.

The violence threatened to spread out of the capital with reports that police in the central English city of Birmingham were struggling to contain a large group of youths who had earlier smashed several shop windows.

The trouble in Hackney began when police tried to carry out a stop and search operation, the BBC said, citing reports, but a police spokesperson could not immediately confirm this.

Hackney is a few kilometres from Stratford in east London, where the 2012 Olympics will take place in a year's time.

Police were also called to Lewisham in south London, where a handful of cars were set alight and several shops looted.

People scrambling across rooftops

In nearby Peckham, a deprived area in the south of the capital, television pictures showed a business premises on fire, with flames threatening to spread to neighbouring properties. People were seen scrambling across the rooftops.

London fire brigade said they had sent six engines and 30 firefighters to tackle the blaze.

Nearby, youths also tried to set fire to a double-decker bus, which was left badly scorched.

The riots broke out in the north London district of Tottenham on Saturday night, following a protest against the death of a local man in a police shooting last week, and the violence spread to other parts of the city on Sunday.

The fire brigade received 264 emergency calls overnight on Saturday and attended 49 fires in the Tottenham area.

Overnight on Saturday, they dealt with 12 fires which damaged shops, vehicles and homes. Three fire engines were damaged in the violence.

"There is simply no excuse for this abhorrent behaviour which endangers the lives of firefighters and also the people they are trying to protect," said London fire and emergency planning authority leader Brian Coleman.

Police said they had made 215 arrests since the riots began. The youngest person arrested was an 11-year-old boy.

The districts worst hit by the violence - Tottenham, Brixton in south London, Hackney and Peckham - are multi-ethnic areas which have high rates of unemployment.

  • Bill - 2011-08-08 22:38

    ? ? London town is burning down, burning down, burning down ? ? ? ? London town is burning down, burning down, burning down ? ? ? ? not by fair skinned ladies…! ? ?Put the fires out and throw them in jail, throw them in jail, throw them in jail. ? ? ? ?Put the fires out and throw them in jail, throw them in jail, throw them in jail. ? ? ? ?Oh these guys have gone crazy…! ? ?

      Creeky - 2011-08-09 10:38

      In the words of the GREAT JOE STUMNER...leader of the CLASH: "London is burning out..... I live by the River.... Oh Oh OHOOOO!!!!!"

  • Agent Bastad - 2011-08-08 22:39

    It's the start of the revolution Joseph Stalin promised the West. Have fun. We have no one but ourselves to blame.

      Andy - 2011-08-08 23:11

      Dont think so, they are basically just a bunch of idiots with nothing better to do so they use the cover of a cause to loot shops, much like the ANCYL are using the cover of nationalization to loot the state.

      Creeky - 2011-08-09 10:40

      I agree... YOBBO's, Paki's and Bangra's all trying to jump on the bandwagon...tomorrow they will DENY that they were involved... This is PURE VIOLENCE, nothing else... Agent Bastard.... that revolution only exists in yours and Malema's HEAD... Not to bright now... are you?

  • pants - 2011-08-08 23:24

    Hilary Ojukwu.....look at evidence and look at the patterns of behaviour, I wish I could say it was anything other than typical.

      Hilary Ojukwu - 2011-08-08 23:42

      What evidence is more important than the fact that a peaceful man was killed by a racist police? It is wicked to now deny the people the right to express their anger. What is going on there is natural. There is a breakdown of law and order. And it was started by the police when they murdered an innocent man and lied about it.

      Yoni - 2011-08-09 00:09

      @Hilary Obasanjo: Stop fooling yourself. Mark Duggan was a crackhead and now the world's finally rid of this worthless parasite. Here's a link you should copy and paste into your browser. Face the facts - the truth is out there. Duggan was just another good for nothing sponging on the government, sound familiar innit? That is why Africa will soon be the only beggar continent as Asia and South America got its act together to excel.

      OZNOB - 2011-08-09 00:23

      dear miss hillary ojukwu , very peaceful protest where they set shops alight as well as busses etc with a fair amount of vandalism thrown in to boot - good grief woman i would hate to see your idea of a violent protest. as far as you calling their police racist in my humble experience i find that statement so far from the truth it is obscene. Purtaining to the protestors they should all be locked up for unrest or whatever they call it and then deported back to their country of origin where they can protest without any racism. That young kid of eleven caught doing those deeds should be given the hiding of his/her life and then deported . england would be better off without this type of yobbos who have no respect for the law

      cyber_writer - 2011-08-09 01:46

      @ Ojukwu, was Mark Duggan peaceful? Apparently he was a drug dealer, and if that IS to be believed, that is not a very peaceful activity, it RUINS peoples lives. As I have tried to mention though, if the police are to blame for a wrongful shooting, they must be held accountable. Whatever the excuses you may shout about, the actions of those people who are burning down buildings is NOT natural - and it's that which is also WICKED if you want to talk about wickedness, innocent people lived and worked in those buildings, people who had NOTHING to do with the shooting of Mark Duggan, but oh it's the fault of the police - it's always someone elses fault isn't it...........

  • pants - 2011-08-08 23:33

    prag, pad. What are you talking about? I have no helper. I'm making comments on what I see, I did not say there were no whites involved only that in a city predominately white that minorities appeared to be the main instigators....have you watched any of the footage? white imperialist footage.....

  • makola55 - 2011-08-08 23:38

    Before the racists have a field day; Be cognisant that there are decent black people in London who are appalled by the criminal elements wrecking havoc in the capital lately Birmingham too. Mind you the overwhelming majority of these vile an impetuous excuses of human beings were born and bred in Britain - to put in context; if anyone think they are immigrants - just think of them as having the same status in the UK as all non-blacks in SA (ridiculous I know). I am black and they neither represent me nor the family of Mark Duggan who was slain by the cops (their words not mine. A peaceful protest was hijacked and this is inexcusable. There you go, I’m over and out. All the racists with their suppressed vilification for anything black feel free to let out steam.

      thetruth - 2011-08-08 23:40

      well said makola55

      Doublepost - 2011-08-08 23:47

      Yea, well maybe if "people of colour" were not forced on Whites, as is the case here and now in the UK, there wouldn't be a need for "racists." Just maybe, the problem lies with feeble minded people, such as yourself, who cannot realise that we don't belong in the same area and both deserve our own countries. There, I'm over and out.

      Hilary Ojukwu - 2011-08-08 23:57

      Makola55, YOU ARE A GOOD BLACK INDEED! YOU ARE EXCEPTIONAL! All blacks are genetically criminal except you.

      Yoni - 2011-08-09 00:12

      @makola55: I don't vilify people who are honest, like Moeletsi Mbeki and possibly yourself.

  • pants - 2011-08-08 23:47

    thetruthmyAss....what about our police (black police) killing a protester(Andries Tatane), is that a racist killing?and lets not forget in the report that the police were shot at as well in the incident. Im not suggesting that we know everything that went on in the incident that sparked the initial protests but even you cant be stupid or deluded enough to believe that these people (thugs) are truly interested in a possible wrongful shooting

  • pembaforeignbusiness chamber - 2011-08-08 23:49

    and here we have britain, all those poor suffering people from all over the world who was allowed to go to britain, to get away from their terrible places of birth or origin, to get away from hunger and war, to get away from all the bad things in africa, from apartheid to colonialism to hunger to lazyness religius opression and bla bla. they are welcomed to live of the british welfare sistem to witch they have not contributed. and in return to say thank you, they want more, and now just to say extra thank you, they burn every thing down and destroy it. and all this is happening at a time when the british taxpayer must safe greece, banks, africa, muslims, pirates and feed africa. but if i say who the hooligans is i will be called a racist or anti muslim. so therfor not to be labelled i will lie and blame it on the white colonial rasist bastards with there christain friends. now this i am allowed to say.

      ProudofPink - 2011-08-08 23:57

      Well said. They're so quick to condemn the west but first in line for the free handouts.

  • thetruth - 2011-08-09 00:03


  • thetruth - 2011-08-09 00:06

    @ ProudofPink Pigs are pink...and they're synonymous of FILTH,STINK,SCUM...

      OZNOB - 2011-08-09 00:28

      sorry for you pigs are very clean animals aswell as being very intelligent so please get your facts straight

      Hilary Ojukwu - 2011-08-09 01:08

      ProudofPink, you really sound evil, satanic and hellish. I am sure you are not black.

  • thetruth - 2011-08-09 00:14

    thank the BRITS...ur ass..thank them 4 f..king the world up and pludering it...thank the non whites like INDIANS,JAPS,CHINESE,ARABS 4 civilisation...all u HONKIES do is steal the credit for these things...u gullible f..k

      Yoni - 2011-08-09 00:22

      What did you fellas invent except to wear dark glasses at night and wear baseball caps the wrong way around?

      Anton - 2011-08-09 00:36

      Thattruthbrother, It is no longer a matter of a difference of opinion. One must wonder if a thug like you should abuse free speech ? In most countries in the world, INCLUDING SOUTH AFRICA, your comments are A CRIMINAL OFFENCE !!

  • veld66 - 2011-08-09 00:15

    After the end of the second world war Britain, France , Netherlands, Germany and Belgium brought people from their colonies to work in rebuilding their destroyed economies!!! Most of these people worked in dirty jobs and the governments forgot to integrate them into the society,,,The results is what we are seeing today!!!

      Yoni - 2011-08-09 00:21

      Oh, just what we've been waiting for: an excuse for this savage behaviour.

      thetruth - 2011-08-09 00:23

      @ veld666 u are partially true in what u say....but look at the bigger much of racism,abuse and intolerance can a ppl take...this is what u getwhen u continuously ignore ur failings...and this will happen all over EUROPE in the years to come...the root of the problem is RACIALISM...nothing else...and its going to happen here in SA(GOD FORBID)...but this is the reality...a sect of ppl that have it in their mentality that theyre superior are definitely of the devil

      veld66 - 2011-08-09 00:36

      Yes there is bad Police racism in Europe,,,now its combined factors too,

  • Sibusiso Radebe - 2011-08-09 00:24

    Its just an excuse to steal stuff from the stores.

  • Sibusiso Radebe - 2011-08-09 00:27

    I can see people looting, but nothing from the book stores, they remain untouched.

      Hilary Ojukwu - 2011-08-09 00:48

      Sibusiso, you are a HOUSE NEGRO! How many books have you written?

  • thetruth - 2011-08-09 00:38

    just look at the successful economies currently...china,india,turkey,brazil...all u honkies know is debt,borrowing,selling others ur bonds etc...look what ur western economies look like...ur leaders f..k their honest citizens to enrich big business and inturn themselves...

      ProudofPink - 2011-08-09 00:46

      A whole lot more prosperous than Africa is and ever will be. Thing is, the west has grown bored of seeing starving child, snot out their noses and surrounded by flies. The novelty has worn off so best you put your begging bowls away and do something for yourselves, don't you think?

  • loyiso madinga - 2011-08-09 00:46

    @ Proudofpink, Pants The genocide of an estimated 114000000 Native Americans. White people. 11million Africans relocated into slavery, 20% died en route. White people. Over 6million Jews, gypsies and homosexuals killed during the holocaust. White people. First World War, 37million dead. White people. Second World War. over 60million dead. White people. Nagasaki & Hiroshima, 118661 dead. White people. That's just in the past 500years. If you're gonna make an argument make an educated one.

      pants - 2011-08-09 01:11

      I will check the figures...... if i thought they would do any good. Africans kill with out being able to count

  • cyber_writer - 2011-08-09 00:55

    @ HILARY OJUKWU "peaceful protesters fighting for their rights", are you smoking your socks? That comment alone, shows you are full of hot air & nothing else - Peace & fighting hey, ye right, like those two words go hand in hand....... is that what peaceful protestors do? FIGHT with the police, burn buildings, burn cars and buses, loot shops? Really? You call that PEACEFUL??????? I'd hate to know what you call violent then. If the police are at fault by shooting Mark Duggan, fair enough they need to account for that, but according to reports Duggan was a drug dealer, so who is to be believed? Mark Duggan aside, these "protestors" aka, RIOTERS, LOOTERS & ARSONISTS have long since lost their right to be treated with respect or taken seriously, & are anything BUT PEACEFUL, they are CRIMINALS. They are burning shops - those shops are the livelihoods of people within those communities. If they have an issue with the police, why not burn down the police stations - because they won't, it's the soft targets they will aim for, because that's what COWARDS do. Peaceful protestors - carry on smoking your socks HILARY.

      Hilary Ojukwu - 2011-08-09 01:19

      I think you are the one smoking socks cyber_writer. Which court of law convicted Duggan as a drug dealer?

      cyber_writer - 2011-08-09 01:30

      Did I mention a court of law convicted Mark Duggan - all I was trying to get at was why was he shot? If the police were wrong - they must be held accountable, as I mentioned. You still must be smoking your socks though, because you haven't justified why you think those "protests" are PEACEFUL.

      Hilary Ojukwu - 2011-08-09 01:30

      Answer me cyber_writer! Which court of law convicted Duggan as a drug dealer?

      Hilary Ojukwu - 2011-08-09 01:43

      You cannot isolate the protest from the police murder. They go together. If you agree that the extra-judicial killing is wrong, abominable and outrageous, then you should agree that the protests represent the outrage.

      cyber_writer - 2011-08-09 02:15

      Carry on smoking your socks and try not to set yourself alight while you're at it, - you obviously can't read properly because the smoke from your socks is obscuring your view, but I'll say it again, I DID NOT SAY A COURT OF LAW CONVICTED DUGGAN, i was merely trying to make a point, but because you are smoking your socks you obviously can NOT get that point. You are also trying to make your point fair enough, but I know the difference between you and me, is that I have much more of an open mind. There is only BLACK and WHITE to you. No other shades, what a grim world you must live in. There are other ways to protest the killing of a man, and that is NOT by burning buildings down, by looting, by burning cars, or by causing wanton destruction - and they are not peaceful ways as you claim. There is NO justification for such behaviour. So let's say we know for SURE the police killed Duggan wrongfully (which we don't), do you really believe that in retaliation it's acceptable to burn, destruct and loot OTHER people's property & risk other INNOCENT lives? They are NO better than the police they claim to hate. But you know what?? I actually don't care anymore what you think, because I am not going to check back for a reply so feel free to waste your time and get the last word in, and CARRY ON SMOKING YOUR SOCKS..............

  • Douglas - 2011-08-09 08:00

    Ok I cant resist, I have to say something. The youth are not born this way, they are raised this way, call it bad parenting and education. I young mind is programmed a particular way, inappropriate behaviour or a dysfunctional individual is a product of bad parenting and poor education or lack thereof. This has nothing to do with race.

  • Douglas - 2011-08-09 08:06

    Ok I cant resist, I have to say something. The youth are not born this way, they are raised this way, call it bad parenting and education. I young mind is programmed a particular way, inappropriate behaviour or a dysfunctional individual is a product of bad parenting and poor education or lack thereof. This has nothing to do with race.

  • Skotepetoors - 2011-08-09 08:11

    The COLONIALISTS have no other country to burn, so now they burn their own. Embarrassing old chap...

  • Mark - 2011-08-09 09:52

    Beat the scum down. Give a hand to the cops! Druggies and welfare scum are behind the riots. God keep the Authorities safe!

  • Creeky - 2011-08-09 10:36

    In the words of the GREAT JOE STUMNER...leader of the CLASH: "London is burning out..... I live by the River.... Oh Oh OHOOOO!!!!!"

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