Military intervention in Syria possible

2012-05-29 22:43

Paris - Military intervention to end the crisis in Syria cannot be ruled out if it is backed by the United Nations Security Council, French President Francois Hollande said on Tuesday.

"It is not possible to allow Bashar al-Assad's regime to massacre its own people," Hollande told France 2 television. "Military intervention is not excluded provided it is carried out under the auspices of international law, namely via a [UN] Security Council resolution."

"It is down to myself and others to convince Russia and China, and also to find a solution which is not necessarily a military one," said Hollande, who is due to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin in Paris on Friday.

  • Johann - 2012-05-29 23:07

    Let's watch the NWO strategy unfold.........

      Johann - 2012-05-29 23:09

      And South Africa is next in line. The recent racial tension is not coincidental.

      Tankiso Mogoje - 2012-05-29 23:23

      Another useless organization these UN,if the US doesn't act they won't act.Look at the genocide in Rwanda,their observers were there this was taking place by they did nothing other than to make a report

      sipho.nkruma - 2012-05-30 01:49

      please! give me a break!! just last week the AL-QAEDA REBELS in syria used SUICIDE BOMBERS to commit acts of TERRORISM against the LEGAL govt and citizens of syria. this was confirmed by the same UN monitors who are now shouting to the high heavens that assad is a killer,yet last week after witnessing the acts of terrorism by the rebels,the UN SAID NOTHING! and the so called independent UN monitors simply said "we call on all sides to stop the violence" what a load of garbage from the UN and bigoted western govts. I do not condone the killings on either side. but it is clear as day that the bigoted govts from the west think that only THEY have the right to determine who is a criminal and who is not. had the rebels committed the same TERRORIST ISRAEL,the UN would have dropped them like a bad transmission. believe you me people,the russians and the chinese did the RIGHT thing by defending assad. all nato wants to do is to destabilze syria under the diasguise of democracy.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 02:17

      Sipho, Al-Quaida is now moving into Syria because of the dark chaos in the land, and the leadership vacuum. You're a deeply prejudiced person agains the so-called West. Therefore you're not seeing what is really going on in Syria. You believe the UNELECTED government of Bashar Assad is the legitimate government of Syria. This is not what legitimate means. You really should educate yourself more before arriving at such conclusions. You're supporting one of the last truly oppressive regimes left in the world. Why?!

      sipho.nkruma - 2012-05-30 02:27

      fred stop your lying! there is no VACCUM in syria! the rebels are AL-QAEDA! nato and the UN both know it but they dont care because they simply want to destabilize the country! they will then claim that they HAVE to invade it to remove al-qaeda if assad falls! go and tell your lies to the russians. see what they tell you!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 03:12

      This is what I mean: you're a deeply prejudiced person which is blinding you to what is really going on in Syria. You're saying the US and NATO are behind Al-Quaida attacking the country, so that they can then invade the country. This is ridiculous, no offense.

      Luyolo - 2012-05-30 06:39

      It's not ridiculous Fred because that is exactly what they want. To DESTABILIZE SYRIA which is not an enemy of Iran. US/NATO And Some Arab Countries are on this one together and the ultimate goal is IRAN they don't give a damn about Syrian people. Do u think they can be quiet when Iraqis by millions are killed by the US and then suddenly care about thousands of Syrian people .

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 07:26

      Like the unelected Syrian regime, the Iranian regime is illegitimate. It adjusts elections to hold onto power. Effectively it has stolen the Iranian govrnment from the Iranian people. Is this what you want? Surely not. The US and Nato havenot killed millions of people in Iraq. You're seriously confused about what is really going on. The US and Nato go to extraordinary lengths to avoid harm to civilians. Surely you know this. It's obvious. Al-Quaida and the Taliban on the other hand specifically target civilians. THEY have killed and maimed hundreds of thousands of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. Luyolo, if you want to have a positive impact on world affairs, you have to educate yourself about what is really going on. At the moment you're way off the true reality.

      Henry - 2012-05-30 08:22

      There are iranian troops on the ground in Syria,no one mentions this. So it's ok for Assads allies to help him but not ok for the rebels to get help.HYPOCROCY

      Anthony - 2012-05-30 09:31

      @Sipho.nkruma & Luyolo Really? The west (particularly the US) want to destabilize the country? That's your informed statement? Sounds more like a page from the book of Bob! It's in no one's interests for more instability in Syria which in turn will destabilize the region. The US's main ally in the region is Israel. Further escalation of the crisis will harm Israel, or at the very least, open the prospect of putting Israel in harm's way. You should really get off the common tendency of African despots who despise the West, as without the West, we're all stuck with the likes of Russia, China and other countries with absolutely no moral compass leading the show. So get with the program guys, don't defend such disgusting regimes as that of Assad and it's allies. You're really misinformed and it shows. You guys are embarrassing (yourselves and the country you represent).

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-05-30 15:07

      Fred. I was telling you of foreign intervention that was going on in Syria months ago!!!! But you implied I was a crack pot!!!!! Now you are forced to admit it!!!!!! You seem to be the one who is misinformed???? While the Syrian govt are no angels it is clear that there has been foreign intervention in Syria through Saudi Arabia supplying arms ie us arms. Making a cease fire impossible!!!! But no it's only the Russians and Assad with blood on there hands America only want freedom and democracy!!!! It seems if the us say freedom and democracy enough you will believe whatever they say and not look between the lines and discover there real intentions!!!

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-05-30 15:18

      @tankiso. The un did not react to Rwanda simply because there was nothing to gain. Infact Leon panetta recently admitted that the us army takes its orders from the un to go to war and not the us congress. Go on you tube and search Obama & panetta give up us sovereignty to international law and you will hear them admitting this

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-05-30 15:22

      Anthony you seem to be the one who is seriously misinformed. An unstable Syria is exactly what the us and Israel wants, because Iran is the main target of the west and Syria is irans only major ally in the region. Seriously Anthony look at the bigger picture. When the us and israel attack Iran will Syria be able to lend Iran any assistance in its current state. Obviously not.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 15:33

      Dylan, I have been consistent in saying that the longer Assad's violence and destruction is allowed to go on, the more opportunity there will be for Al-Quaida to infiltrate and try and take advantage of the dark chaos. But Al-Quaida is not responsible for the most recent attack on civilians. Assad is.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 16:09

      Of course the US and freer world want weak Syrian and Iranian regimes. They're among the last truly oppressive regimes left in the world. Dylan, you haven't learnt much. You're still supporting oppression in our world. You're complicit in the murder of Syrian families and the destruction of Syria.

      Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-05-30 16:28

      Fred to say I'm complicit is just plain IDIOTIC. I'm not against a free Syria at all I'm against certain elite nations using the uprising to further there own geo political aims

      Anthony - 2012-05-30 17:57

      @Dylan Not a bad comment, I appreciate what you're saying BUT do you really think the US wants a war with Iran right now, or in the near future? No. You can see that in Obama's responses so far to the crisis, and his comments to Netanyaha recently at the White House. The US has spent the last decade fighting wars and are trying to wrap them all up to focus on their main issue at the moment: China. Israel would like to bomb Iran yes, but the US, not so much. This seems to the general consensus from numerous think-tanks and analysts. The US is war-weary, wants to focus on dominance in the Pacific and on it's economy. The LAST thing it wants right now is a war on Israel's behalf. Israel cannot attack Iran on it's own, or rather it could, with little success. Enjoy your day.

      Luyolo - 2012-05-30 19:37

      Let's wait and see Fred.The US has always said the one thing and the other. Some US generals say Iran can be attacked now.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 20:07

      Dylan, in your weakening of the freer world with your conspiracy theories, such as the outlandish belief that the US attacked itself on 9/11, you ate complicit in the murders of Syrians who want nothing more than basic human rights. You should be shouting loud for their rights, and encouraging intervention on their behalf, not sending out negative interference patterns against those trying to help.

  • fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 00:15

    Military intervention is Syria is now essential

      sipho.nkruma - 2012-05-30 01:51

      o.k,YOU lead the assault against RUSSIA who has already told nato that if they attack syria,russia will defend them,and rightfully so!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 02:13

      You're complicit in the slaughter of Syrians and their families, and the destruction of Syria by the unelected tyrant Bashar Assad.

      Luyolo - 2012-05-30 06:42

      Military intervention will only lead to an even more slaughter of Syrian people like in Libya.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 07:28

      Again, you're confused abut what happened in Libya. Military intervention saved tens of thousands of lives, maybe more. Syria is not the same as Libya, but at this stage, with Assad butchering Syrian families, I think the threat of military action is all that can stop him now.

      Henry - 2012-05-30 08:24

      Russia will not defend Syria militarily,they just love selling weapons to Assad

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 08:29

      Today Reuters is reporting a Russian shipment of arms is on its way to Syria. Can you believe it. Russians the world over, you should be ashamed. You're complicit in the murder of Syrian families, women and children.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 08:50

      Correction: the report is from Friday

      Addison - 2012-05-30 10:08

      How strategic-minded of you, thinking this is the reaction from the world the #Syrian regime wanted by killing civilians. So smart.\r\nWho is the no. 1 beneficiary of Al Houla massacre? Does your strategic mind tell you it's the #Syrian regime or the #FSA? #DropTheArrogance

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 15:34


  • Dragan - 2012-05-30 01:08

    BBC caught with their pants down again.. using false propaganda pic on the front page of their website of dead children being prepared for mass burial as evidence of Syrian govt atrocities over the w-end. Only problem was the exact same photo was used over a decade ago in Iraq . I recommend Russia Today for a more balanced news source.

      sipho.nkruma - 2012-05-30 01:55

      YEP, JUST SAW IT FOR MYSELF WITH MY OWN EYES! NATO and THE UN are usuig lies and propoganda to attempt to create reasons for acts of war against syria! this is the same thing that they did in LIBYA!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 02:19

      Nato and the UN are using lies to wage war against Syria because the BBC used a wrong photo on its website? This is a faulty conclusion to arrive at, similar to the one about the unelected Bashar Assad being the legitimate leader of Syria.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-05-30 07:31

      Dragan, Don't forget to watch RT !! They are having some great comic shows on today !! Wow, is that is your source of info.............!! It is like, if you can't find a newspaper , than buy the Citizen!!!!

      Imtiaz - 2012-05-30 08:02

      To Fred and Anthony the news you get is the \truth\ ANEW news is \BS\ what a load of crap

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 08:29


      Anthony - 2012-05-30 09:59

      @Imtiaz I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say. Please try again.

  • sipho.nkruma - 2012-05-30 02:02


      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 02:10

      I'm not seeing this on the London Telegraph website. Please provide a link. The legal government of Syria? Are you aware that this government has not been elected? Governments are only legal if elected.

      sipho.nkruma - 2012-05-30 02:24

      you see what you want to see fred,just as you did in libya! the link is on Dragans post!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 03:45

      I've responded. The idea that ONE misused photo by the BBC is indicitive of a Western conspiracy to invade Syria, after fourteen months of Western inaction, is ludicrous. It's indicative rather of a reactionary prejudice that you and other conspiracy theorists hold that have little to do with what is really going on in the world, Syria in particular. You're making yourself ineffective in truly helping the Syrian people who are being butchered by an unelected and cold tyrant.

      Dragan - 2012-05-30 04:11

      Well its not the first time Fred.. the link below is video of the bbc showing alleged celebration footage made in tripoli libya after the fall of ghadaffi.. The only problem is they are all waving INDIAN FLAGS!!! (goto 30 seconds) How dumb do they think we are?

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 04:18

      The world's not perfect. Errors happen all the time, some intentional some unintentional. But to draw thd conclusions you and Sipho are drawing is plain wrong and delusional. All the while Syrian families are being butchered, literally, by the unelected dictator Bashar Assad. The longer you hold onto these fringe ideas the more you're complicit in these awful events. This is a Quantum universe. There are no observers. You and Sipho ate enabling Bashar Assad. Why?!

      Dragan - 2012-05-30 04:23

      Oh and you will love this one.. here is a PRO Ghadaffi rally in tripoli before the intervention.. Look.. Libyan flags Libyan people..(this one did not make the BBC) and look how many people!! perhaps 1 milion!!! It looked to me the whole of Tripoli was there.. so when people tell me the people did not like him I say BS I'll show you my video of his support and you show me yours of his opposition and we shall compare.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 04:46

      You're posting a video from YouTube that has no reference. It's probably from Libyan state TV. You lose credibility when you do this. You're doing this on a South African website, a country that went through Apartheid, which was similarly oppressive and to Gaddafi's unelected 42-year rule. You're supporting a murderous, unelected dictator on a South African website.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-05-30 05:23

      Dragan, Where the heck do you get all this crap from ? Be straight forward ,and say you admire dictators/Tyrants/Mass Murderers. It is not unlawful, but you downgrade this site to one, where one spews out some silly childish anti Western BS. And according to that prostitute gaddafi, there were 2.7 million of "his" people on Green Square in Tripoli, and they all "LOVED" him. But soon after this murderous fruitcake got a lift on the back of a bakkie to the abatoir, all, but a few thousand die-hards evaporated into hot air !!! It must eat your guts out, that in the last few weeks, almost two million Libyans registered , to be able to vote in the upcoming elections!!! And this WAR CRIMINAL assad, unfortunately for you, he is on his way out. The Russians , after 15 months, have come to their senses, and accept it is not worth the damage this has caused them, to protect this THUG any longer. And don't fall for this Sipho Nkruma, he is aka, thatsickdisturbedracistbrotherofthestates, from New York, who like Fidel keeps coming with some other name. He has been talking the same crap about Al-quaida for more than a year. If ever anybody has abused his freedom, it is this guy FULL OF HATRED!!!

  • Luyolo - 2012-05-30 06:05

    The people who did the massacre are the ones who are benefiting from it and the benefit is military intervention. It's been done before . Problem-Reaction-Solution. Woodrow Wilson did it in World War 1 ...Roosevelt did it World War 2. You create the problem and the people will react asking you for an intervention and you will come and you will come in a Superman suit offering a solution in a problem that was created by you in the 1st place.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 07:32

      This is ridiculously uninformed. The US was VERY reluctant to involve itself in the world wars. It had a strong isolationist policy. It virtually had to be dragged into the wars. Really, Luyolo, you're showing your extreme ignorance, and this is leading you to support open oppression of inncoent civilians. It's important that youget yourself up to speed on what is really happening. You have to drop this immature anti-West rhetoric that you've chosen to believe. It's childish.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-05-30 07:43

      Luyolo, WOW, I have read some crap on this site, but you are the best !! "Problem Reaction Solution !!!!!!!!!!????????? Woodow Wilson did it, Than Roosevelt did it...............!! DID WHAT ??? Where the heck do you get this BS from ??????????? THIS is insane !!!

      Luyolo - 2012-05-30 09:26

      Just research how America got involved in WW1 and WW2. The same strategy is the one being used now so they can get involved in Syria. I am not saying Asaad is my hero. but I am saying the Syrian people are not being allowed to chart their own course. There are foreigners who are destabilizing Syria from within. Look at who is benefiting from the Houla massarce. Asaad cannot just roll down tanks on his people knowing that the result will cause more anger internationally. And what makes me sad is that people suddenly think that the United States is a hero knowing fully the atrocities that they did and still are doing in the middle east. If all Syrians wanted Asaad out he would have done so just like Mubarak and the guys in Tunisia and Yemen. These people do know how to step down and these crazy idea that Asaad only knows evil he will never step down is ludicrous. The reason why China and Libya is not backing this whole is not because they are evil it is because of the lies. The intervention in Libya was about a NO-FLY ZONE and it ended up being about REGIME CHANGE. What happened in Libya is no revolution because NATO did the regime change not Libyans. Below I have a link to a PDF document called WHICH WAY TO PERSIA.The document as compiled before the Arab Spring by Brookings a US think tank in 2009. The details in this document are exactly what's goin on in Syria today.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 15:49

      Luyolu, again, you're wrong about how the US got involved the in the world wars. And you're wrong about who the Iranian regime is, distinct from the Iranian people. Your contention that Assad "can't just roll out tanks on his people" is flat-out naive. He's been doing this for more than a year. Your idea that the US benefits from the recent slaughter of women and children is ridiculous and reflects your highly prejudiced anti-West bias. The international community decided to intervene in Libya by targeting Libyan state and military resources that the unelected dictator Moamar Gaddafi was using to slaughter anyone who wanted the right to vote. It was successful. Seventy-two people died in Nato actions, and tens of thousands of civilian lives were saved, maybe more. The result is you're actually harming the Syrian people and supporting violent and dark human rights abuses by the unelected dictator Bashar Assad who's trying to hold onto unelected power with the active support of the Russian regime and the tacit support of the Chinese regime. You're complicit in the murder of Syrian women and children.

  • michael.a.devilliers - 2012-05-30 07:58

    Okay, I have a great question for all these anti-West critics: what exactly do NATO stand to gain out of Syria? Certainly not enough to pay for an invasion - so if they do anything it'll have to be out of the kindness of their own hearts and expense of their people.

      Imtiaz - 2012-05-30 08:10

      To put one more PUPPET in the region to be on the side of ISRAEL and to be anti IRAN

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 08:33

      This puppet thing is so stupid, Imtiaz. Here you are promoting an illegitimate regime that has hijacked the Iranian state from the Iranian people, that supports the stoning of women, funds Jihadists, and abuses the Palestinians. Do you have anything yet to say about the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of innocent Muslims being slaughtered under your nose by the Jihadists and unelected dictators in your midsts. Nothing yet?

      jaba.kov - 2012-05-30 08:47

      Is the new government in Egypt pro Israel? Is the new government in Algeria pro Israel? Is the new government in Libya pro Israel? Is the new government in Yemen pro Israel? Are any of the above anti Iran? you full of bs imtiaz. While the people of Syria die (13000) you still defend the butcher of Damascus because he doesn’t have a peace treaty with Israel. You hate Israel more than you love your own brethren. Sick mind.

      Luyolo - 2012-05-30 09:30

      Who is gaining from these massacres in Syria. Is it Asaad or NATO/US allies ? Just answer that and u'll see who's really behind the massacres. Asaad is the enemy of the West why would Asaad shoot at the people knowing that this will cause more diplomatic problems and more pressure for him and ultimately his removal

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 15:51

      Luyolu, this is ridiculous. You're saying the US and Nato (which includes Turkey, a country of 73 million Muslims) despatched black-hooded militia into Syria and killed 108 civilians, most of them women and children.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 21:23

      If the US, for example, was involved in something like that, the President would be impeached the next day.

  • Ringeta - 2012-05-30 08:13

    peace keeping force than military holocost done in Lybia.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 08:35

      Military holocaust. What are you talking about? Clearly you're not aware that in the thousands of Nato sorties and missions in Libya, 72 people were killed, while tens of thousands of lives, maybe more, were saved.

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  • Henry - 2012-05-30 08:33

    Here's another question for the "I hate the west brady bunch(read - I hate white people)",how is Assad's regime,made up from a minority tribe,that utterly dominates the country through the barrel of a gun any different from apartheid South Africa?

      jaba.kov - 2012-05-30 08:50

      true. Funny how all this anti-white crowd of racists are supporting Apartheid in Syria.

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-05-30 09:03

      Spot on bevan , strange that ? Minority unelected govt that uses force as a means of oppressive rule , bitterly striking protesters with the military , when the people rise up and put their lives on the line (13000 ppl in 1 year )somehow its the "evil west' working with Al-queada and other hocum .The unbridled hypocracy ,self-serving bias and bigoted blindness is shocking .

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-06-01 03:58

      Incredible isn't it

  • Addison - 2012-05-30 11:13

    Oh great, another foreign military intervention in the Middle East. Remember the Libyans, how are they doing nowadays? And let us not forget the Iraqis. What happened in Al Houla was very barbaric, and whoever is responsible should be punished severely. However, it would be very un strategic of the Assad regime to commit the Houla massacre knowing full well that it would get this international isolation. Think about it, who really stands to benefit from this massacre? Does your strategic mind tell you it's the #Syrian regime or the #FSA? Study Syria,seek out different perspectives; build a decent base of understanding before drawing conclusions. God help Syria and the Syrians against their enemy, whoever it may be and wherever they may be.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 15:54

      Completely delusional. You are complicit in the murder of Syrian civilians and the destruction of Syria by the unelected tyrant Bashar Assad who's trying to hold onto unelected power with the support of Putin's Russia.

      Addison - 2012-05-31 23:39

      You are the delusional one if you think a foreign military intervention in Syria will stop the killings, in fact it will only escalate them. And like I said #DropTheArrogance because clearly you have NO clue about what is really going on in Middle East!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-06-01 00:49

      For a start, you're wrong when you say the Libyans are worse off today than if the international community had not intervened. There is no doubt they're better off, compared to the tens of thousands of deaths, mailings, tortures and rapes they would have gone through at the hands of Gaddafi, who had gone mad. This is not to say it's all roses in Libya today. Clearly not. But it's a far cry from what they were heading towards at the hands of the madman Gaddafi. It would have been armageddon. Every thinking, imaginative person knows this. I agree that a reactionary invasion of Syria would not work. But that's not what I'm proposing. What is needed in my opinion is a unified, concerted standing together by the international community (including Russia and China) looking squarely in the eyes of Assad, with a "no more, step down or else". When he doesn't have the opportunity to continue destroying his opposition, and the international community is demanding no more, the probability is very high that he will give in. Russia and China are giving him this opportunity, this gap, and he's taking it. For now. In the absence of Russia and China being responsible, I believe the rest of the world should act. All of 134 out of the 151 countries on Earth have stated in general assembly that Assad is illegitimate and must go. That's enough in my opinion. And I believe Russia will give in, and China won't do anything.

  • Dylan Dario Sciarappa - 2012-05-30 16:26

    Oh you know that assad is to blame for the recent attacks. Funny the un observers laid the blame on both sides. But western main stream media only blamed Assad. Go figure!!!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-05-30 20:11

      Not so. You're adjusting reality again with your conspiratorial beliefs. The result: you're strengthening Assad who has control of state resources, and you're complicit in the murders of Syrians.

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