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More anti-Muslim ads go up in NYC subways

2013-01-09 07:47

New York - The group that equated Muslim radicals with savages in advertisements last year has put up another set of provocative ads in dozens of New York City subway stations.

The American Freedom Defence Initiative purchased space next to 228 clocks in 39 stations for ads with an image of the burning World Trade Centre and a quote attributed to the Qur'an saying: "Soon shall we cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers."

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority said the ads went up on Monday and will run for a month.

The same group paid for ads to be displayed in 10 stations in September. Those ads implied enemies of Israel are "savages".

The MTA also sold space last year to competing advertisements that urged tolerance.

Comments
  • tannie.marie - 2013-01-09 07:52

    Idiots. And then they wonder why they become targets? Hate speech is the best thing to trigger wars and terrorism.

      saamprater.saampraat - 2013-01-09 08:22

      So by your argument one must allow these Muslims to "Bully" one into submission? Stay quiet or.....I will bomb you!!! Absurd The rest of the world is in dire straights by a silent invasion by Muslims. Its a strategy and we must just sit and be quiet? Rather tell those that "think" Islam is a tolerant religion who they really are. Maybe you must study the Suri. There every Muslim is being instructed more than a hundred times to either convert or kill you So much for toleration Nope, expose them and educate those walking around with wool pulled over their eyes

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-09 08:28

      Saamprater I think your the one with wool pulled over your eyes.

      unbann.fidel - 2013-01-09 08:38

      "The rest of the world is in dire straights by a silent invasion by Muslims. Its a strategy and we must just sit and be quiet?" But the Christian world invasion is something that is to be welcomed?

      Sonnyjakes - 2013-01-09 08:38

      And for evil to flourish good men must do nothing.

      nervern - 2013-01-09 08:45

      Tannie marie how is that hate speech?

      tasneem.cader.7 - 2013-01-09 09:03

      For those who say muslims r silently takin ova...do u even kno who started the wars in those countries,wer kids an innocent ppl r being murdered daily? The muslims are the ones being attacked 1st! An wen they started to fyt back...they became known as terrorist an even tho the way they fighting back is wrong...it still doesn't make the ppl killing them ryt! Do u know Islam has been attacked frm the start? I dnt think u kno anything past wot u see in the media!

      mark.gidish - 2013-01-09 10:27

      @tasneem.cader.7 are … taking … over … you … know … where … and … people …are … first … and … when … fight … terrorists … and … though … people … right … you … from … don’t … you … know … what … you. If you want your comment to be taken seriously … learn to spell.

      ChronicDJ - 2013-01-09 10:54

      Racist much, saamprater?

  • jbooyse - 2013-01-09 07:57

    This has nothing to do with being "Muslim"... It has something to do with being "radical" Don't GENERALIZE !!! Their campaign is aimed at the extremists that KILL in the name of religion. Not at being a Muslim.

      unbann.fidel - 2013-01-09 08:47

      "a quote attributed to the Qur'an saying: "Soon shall we cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers." That is what I thought as well, until I read the above part, which simply and deliberately associates the religion of Islam with Radicalism! The intention is clear when you take the history of this group and the other Zionist propaganda that they have posted in the past. Fortunately for them, Americans are an ignorant bunch despite being immersed in the greatest wealth of information in the world. Unfortunately for Muslims in the US they don't have the money and the power to compete with these Zionist propagandists.

  • gary.desousa.5 - 2013-01-09 08:24

    Choosing selective words and images can be such a powerful weapon,I hope the extreamists read and realize the civilized people/world will not put up with them.

      ChronicDJ - 2013-01-09 11:00

      Choosing selective words is a powerful weapon, yes. It's called propaganda. An effective but not ethical weapon. It's changing the phsycology of people into thinking a certain way...a way they want you to think. You do think that Propaganda such as ANC's "it's apartheid's fault" or "the DA will bring back apartheid" are true. What makes you think this propaganda is true. It's getting a rise out of people and amounts to Hate Speech.

  • Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-09 08:25

    We all know 9/11 was planned and put in action by the Bush administration.

      suleiman.s.umar - 2013-01-09 08:36

      I support u micheal with open mind.

      nervern - 2013-01-09 08:39

      Yes and osama bin laden was a cia agent right? Damn guys stop falling for every drolletjie that's thrown ur way.

      Sonnyjakes - 2013-01-09 08:39

      Another one who believes in urban legends!

      andile.a.mchunu - 2013-01-09 08:53

      I did some research and watched a documentary how 9/11 was staged with peoples lives yes it is Bush. those of you who are demanding proof please get hold of the 2hr shocking documentary how 9/11 was staged and why did it happened.

      abrie.greeff - 2013-01-09 09:11

      Very naive. I bet the Holocast never happened either as liberals would have us believe.

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-09 09:18

      1. Operation Northwoods 2. Bin Laden family is in business with the bush family. 3. Bin Laden was treated at a CIA hospital facility long before they allegedly killed him. 4. 2 of the planes used in 9/11 crashed and left no trace except a hole in the ground and a hole in the pentagon. 5. Building 7 collapsed in a smimilar manner as the towers. 6. When building are destroyed by objects they do not cave in on itself. Some part of the structure is always left standing. 7. Many of the photos they showed of the aleged hijackers were of people that wasn't even in america at the time. They called news agencies to report that they weren't the hijackers. 8. No plane on footage confiscated by fbi that belonged to the hotel across from the penagon. FBI was sued for these tapes to be released to the public.ray.molekoa. 9. Norad conducted drill that dipicted attacks on the trade towers while such attacks were actualy happening rendering their defence useless. 10. Molten steel was captured falling from the towers minutes before the collapse. Steel doesn't melt at the tempretures subjected by an exploding airplane. 11. Months before the attacks the trade centres bomb sniffing dog were put on leave while renovation were made to the elevator shaft. 12. When bush was notified of the incident he was a a school he was caught on camera saying something similar to another plane has hit the centre proving he had knowledge of the attack before it happened. 13. The new owner of the world trade center insured the buildings for a large sum of money specifically asking to cover terrorist attacks he claimed double claiming that two aircraft attacks is two seperate incidents. 14. Just months before 9/11 he heard knews that the world trade centre had asbestos that would have cost more to remove that what he paid for the towers. 15. Al fraud cases and other evidence of criminal activities was destroyed when building 7 collapsed. 16. The alleged hijacker couldn't even fly a small sesna plane how would he direct a plane at the pentagon nose diving and pulling up at the speed claimed by many because 17. not even the cctv cameras shows a plane actually no plane was picked up by any cameras at the pentagon. 18. Planes do not dematerialize on impact. 19. Bin laden has nothing to gain by the destruction of the trade centres 20. Bush had now a reason to make war in the east for oil resources many crimincal got away scott free because of the evidence destroyed in building 7 and the new owner had just bought a building that would cost more than he paid to get legal. (Asbestos) And there is much more this list I compiled out of memory so assume I have missed lots of other facts that would prove 9/11 was an inside job. So now I would like you to do the same. What proof has there ever been to convict Osama Bin Laden of the crime.

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-09 09:29

      Abrie you are in denial because you can't believe that mainstream media lied to you it's understandable. Don't insult opinion rather form your own. You cannot use the haulocast as example the evidence was all to clear in it's case.

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-09 09:32

      You all may dislike the truth all you want it won't make it a lie.

      mikel.kiparski.7 - 2013-01-09 09:56

      BUILDING 7 ??????

      JManAtheoi - 2013-01-09 09:58

      @ Michael - just because YOU think its "the truth" doesn't make it so. All your listed 'facts' are not...facts, such as... "Steel doesn't melt at the tempretures (sic) subjected by an exploding airplane. " - you an expert?

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-09 10:23

      I asked that people who claim Osama was to blame put up facts of their own. You cannot. You don't seem to be an expert or a good listener. I have read through tons of articles, saw tons of videos by world renown engineer that state steels melting point is a lot higher than what's is capable with the amount of fuel in an airplane and with burning office chairs,tables etc. Please post your evidence. There is none because it was a coverup the sooner you open your eyes the sooner this world will move in the right direction. Don't be a puppet.

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-09 10:26

      Hi Mikel, here is an article of building 7. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center

      JManAtheoi - 2013-01-09 10:41

      I didn't make any claims - so what evidence do you want? And because some "renowned engineer" said it doesn't make it fact in this case. (In the 50's and 60's, 'Doctors' used to advertise cigarettes, claiming "these are the healthier choice" etc.) So whom- or whatever you believe, it was written by someone else. So you're just as much as a puppet as I am...just on the other side.

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-09 10:46

      See you can't even supply a single fact to support your claims that osama bin laden was to blame. I gave you more than a handful.

      ChronicDJ - 2013-01-09 11:04

      Investigate it Terrence, instead of just believing the propaganda thrown at you. There's enough soft facts, the hard facts are what is being kept illusive for the very reason of pulling the wool over the eyes of gullible people like yourself. Ones who only see "hard facts" because you can't read between the line.

      ChronicDJ - 2013-01-09 11:07

      @JManAtheoi, are you an expert? so why are you dimissing the idea? Open your minds people....the world is not as the news will have you believe.

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-10 15:45

      19 Arab muslims outwitted the most sophisticated military defence system in the world - 4 times in succession They defeated the laws of physics - by having collapsing buildings fall at free fall rate They defeated the laws of chemistry - by melting steel girders [2750F] with aviation fuel [1517F] They brought down THREE WTC buildings (#1,2 and 7) by hitting only TWO of them Each building happened to fall neatly into its own ‘footprint’ All of the hijackers were on board - we’re not sure yet why none of their names appeared on any of the flight manifests At least five of the hijackers turned up alive and well, after their suicide missions on 9/11 - they now live in the middle east - some interviewed by the BBC A plane hit the Pentagon (one of the most guarded buildings in the USA) - Unfortunately no CCTV footage of the actual plane exists (the wreckage, plane parts, luggage and bodies were never found) Cell phone calls were made at altitudes and speeds that are usually impossible (over 2,000 feet / over 230 mph). We still don’t know how they did this

  • Dvdwalt - 2013-01-09 08:35

    SILENCE!!!!!!! I KEEL YOU

      ryan.v.linde.3 - 2013-01-09 08:59

      "Good evening Infidel"!!

  • raymond.mcnelly - 2013-01-09 08:41

    The problem facing the 'moderate' Muslim is that they will sooner or later realize what the Quaran actually teaches. I hope these Muslims make the right choice and abandon Islam. Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward. - Sources: http://www.dar-us-salam.com/TheNobleQuran/index.html http://www.alquran-english.com

      hudayfah.newman - 2013-01-09 08:52

      *yawn* oh . . . .its one of those let's quote out of context guys again. Some things will never change.

      suleiman.s.umar - 2013-01-09 08:58

      A true believer must grab and accept all the commandments in his SCRIPTURE being a christian or any other religion, Read matthew(7:21-24)Like wise a Good Muslim must obey and surrender to all the Commandments of the HOLY QUR'AN. THERE IS NO MODERATE MUSLIMS.

      raymond.mcnelly - 2013-01-09 09:02

      Hudayfah: *yawn* oh .... Its one of those uninformed sheeple again... But I must agree with you on this one, I did quote the text out of context because if I actually quoted the text within the context of Sura 4 then it gets worse. For example verse 101 or 104 ... Just take 5 minutes and educate yourself.

      raymond.mcnelly - 2013-01-09 09:07

      Suleiman.s.umar: Good for you suleiman. It is your right to live and die for your religion. As long as you not kill for your religion, and I think that is the message here. As for you loving Muslims, I noticed that you singled Muslims out. Does this mean that you have no love for Non-muslims? Or am I reading too much into it?

      raymond.mcnelly - 2013-01-09 09:19

      Fizaizal: strange that you ask me. I am not a Muslim and most certainly not a Muslim apologist. You want me to give you an explanation about jihaad? With supporting text no less. I think it usually works the other way around. I would tell you that Jihad is bad and you would counter my claim with supporting text to prove me wrong. But since you asked, I will give you my 1st impression of Jihad with the little I have researched on that specific topic. Jihad is a struggle - Muslim apologists claim it to be an inner struggle against the sin-filled self. Extremists Muslims see Jihad as a physical struggle against non-believers (the enimy). A type of holy war. But I would be glad to hear your view.

      abuzakariyah.abrahams - 2013-01-09 09:33

      and who made you the expert on Quranic tafseer? The fact that an illiterate man presented a miraculous book wherein one letter has not changed in 1400 years and that it is truely the word of the one and only GOD scares you.

      hudayfah.newman - 2013-01-09 09:36

      @raymon mcnelly oh please do enlighten us about the context. I'm sure everyone would like to know. I for one am waiting in anticipation.

      raymond.mcnelly - 2013-01-09 10:50

      Faizal: What? Where did I ever make the Assertion that (your quote) All Muslims must kill non Muslims all the time (end quote). What I'm bringing to light is that which the the Quaran teaches, and that most 'moderate' Muslims either choose to ignore these facts. All sorts of dancing around text that is as clear as day. I can give you verse after verse IN Context that clearly shows that Muslims are supposed to fight non believers, force conversions, impose special taxes/fines (Jizia). These are facts which most Muslims like yourself ignore, or try to obfuscate. Propagating the 'Religion of Peace' lie. Selling the fable that extremist Muslims are misinterpreting- or ignoring the Quaran, where in fact, peaceful Muslims are the one's not keeping the instructions of the Quaran.

      raymond.mcnelly - 2013-01-09 11:18

      Abuzakariyha.abrahams: Wow, so many FACTS you mention which are ALL wrong ... The irony. - Is it a fact that the Quaran is a miraculous book? No! - Is it a fact that not one letter has changed in the Quaran in 1400 years? Most definitely No! ( even prominent Muslim scholars refute that myth. If you want I can provide sources. ) - Is it a fact That it (Quaran) is truly the word of God? Most definitely No! (Too many errors, contradictions and inconsistencies. ) Either that, or Muhammad lied, or Allah has a short memory or made mistakes. - Am I scared of Muslims, the Quaran or its teachings? No. I pity Muslims because they have been deceived.

      assa.vanderschaff - 2013-01-09 11:48

      Mr mcnelly don't hold your breath we Muslim will never abandon Islam.a piece of useless information there are no Moderate Muslims all Muslims follow the Fundamental principles of Islam

      raymond.mcnelly - 2013-01-09 12:56

      Hudayfah.newman: You want me to explain the context of Sura 4? It is clear as day. That entire Sura is written clearly with very little room for misinterpretation. Do read it yourself please.

      suleiman.s.umar - 2013-01-09 13:22

      @raymond......Islam is all about peaceful leaving globally (Not to kill,attack,harass anybody) But leave in peace and worshiping God with who so ever he is ( even non muslims)

  • suleiman.s.umar - 2013-01-09 08:41

    I love my Islam and Muslims and ready to die as a Muslim....

      raymond.mcnelly - 2013-01-09 09:37

      Suleiman.s.umar: Good for you suleiman. It is your right to live and die for your religion. As long as you are not willing to kill for your religion. I think that is the message here. As for you loving Muslims: I noticed that you singled out Muslims. Does this mean that you have no love for Non-muslims? Or am I reading too much into it?

  • Fox Trixter - 2013-01-09 08:42

    keep on provoking Muslims and they will surely deal with you! death is nothing to them...

  • Michael - 2013-01-09 08:42

    W.T.F.??!! DO WE REALLY WANT TO START W.W.3?? WITH A NUCLEAR SHOWDOWN LOOMING BETWEEN ISRAEL AND IRAN IT SEEMS INEVITABLE...

      ChronicDJ - 2013-01-09 11:16

      that's probably what this propaganda is trying to do...get the Public to feel treatened, then when a (staged) attack and the fallout into WW3 does occur, the public will be happy to side with the military decisions.

  • rita.phillipson.1 - 2013-01-09 08:44

    i just want to know who is the top god - the god of the jews, christians or the muslims ???? Really - religion is the cause of more violence against fellow humans than any other cause !

      Michael - 2013-01-09 09:44

      AMEN TO THAT!!!

      LanfearM - 2013-01-09 10:18

      That is the biggest and saddest joke of all, that three Abrahamic religions all believe in the same god, and are the ones who fight the most about whose doctrine is right.

  • tracey.kabena - 2013-01-09 08:50

    Omggg I can't believe that some people are still soooo closed minded and are still trying to separate the world?! There actions don't directly affects them but they do affects innocent people who just to move on with their lives! Shame on them!!

  • TimestoVanDyk - 2013-01-09 08:58

    Saamprater You can not believe everything that you see on CNN, BBC, SABC and etc. go and find out the truth for yourself. It is not the Muslims who own banks and go around causing war and anarchy for the sake of profits. It is not the Muslims who sell weapons to rebels for the sake of destroying countries. It is not the Muslims who give expired vaccines to African countries so that they can die from diseases. It is not the Muslims who invade other countries under false accusations of weapons of mass destruction knowing very well that they aiming for oil and other resources. It's not the Muslims who destroyed the beautiful country of Lybia and put the blame on one of the greatest leaders of all time, Gaddafi. It is not the Muslims who killed thousands of innocent people in Gaza. It is not the Muslims that blew up the twin towers, cause if that was true, then explain to me how a simple Passport can survive over 5000 degrees of burning jet fuel while even the engines themselves melted in the rubble, and may I not remind you that this happened in 2001 but the Americans are still killing innocent people in Iraq, Afghanistan and many other Muslim nations. It is not the Muslims who commit fraud in the world bank and cause a global economic meltdown. It is not the Muslims that are busy sending drones everyday to blow up innocent people in Somalia, Syria and many other African countries. It's not the Muslims that enforce false democracy on other nations just for the sake of controlling their assets. It is not the Muslims who go around telling people not create nuclear weapons while the US it self owns countless numbers of nuclear bombs. It's not the Muslims who manufacture weapons. The list can go on the whole day. Ignorance won't get us anywhere. The world is like this today because the people who control media are the very people who destroy us.

      unbann.fidel - 2013-01-09 09:05

      Well said Sir, as Noam Chomsky reminds us, it is not the purpose of the mainstream media to question the status quo. That task has fallen to the Internet.

      abrie.greeff - 2013-01-09 09:12

      Wow your a moron.

      unbann.fidel - 2013-01-09 09:38

      It's not enough that you call people morons, you need to specify WHY!

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2013-01-09 09:46

      He's a moron because none of its true and its conspiratorial non-sense . All of it.

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2013-01-09 09:56

      It moronic because its all untrue .

      LanfearM - 2013-01-09 10:19

      Quite true, yet you also cannot believe everything you see on YouTube, or read on conspiracy websites, or see on Al Jazeera.

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-09 11:05

      Everone of you that fail to see the truth isin denial. Most of you has done no research. You only know what's been said on TV. Don't think because the mainstream news said something makes content on the internet is fake. The internet is the only place you are able to find uncencored informartion thus SA secrecy bill thus american government wats censorship in full force on the internet. Imagine the world was uncertain if the earth is flat round or square. Mainstream news reports that the government believes the earth is flat. They make a fake recording like the moon landing and they play it over and over telling you the earth is flat. On the internet you find lots of articles videos and illustrations. Some say its flat some say it square etc. It is your job to sif through the info and determine the truth. Now many know that the mainstream news is wrong but it would disgrace the government should it come out. They make a laws that people from finding out the truth. They punish people who oppose them. See the patriot act. Now 80% of the people only knows what mainstream news has told them. They find out they are wrong and go into denial like you guys... Insulting everyone who knows the earth is round. Using junk to deflect other people from realizing the truth. If the towers steel had been wealend it should have fallen over not cave in on itself. That building is always swaying in a direction because of its base structure design to counter earth quakes. Instead of insulting and just denying everything please bring your facts to the table. Denial will not result the truth being false.

      ChronicDJ - 2013-01-09 11:21

      @AllcoveredinNinjas and you know the truth how? What are your sources? CNN? BBC? Are they completely accurate leaving you with no sense of doubt? Good post @Times. Keep fighting dis-information.

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2013-01-09 11:35

      Oil is a factor because its the life blood of the Iraqi economy , its where the Iraqi government gets the most of its revenue ergo of strategic importance. Oil as a basis for going to war is another prospect all together , if they wanted oil they could have made a deal with Saddam as many others did . @Chronic - more sources than those that just try to validate a predisposed position .

      ChronicDJ - 2013-01-09 12:02

      If they just wanted oil, then why all the still-to-be-found "weapons of mass destruction" bullcr@p?? Why all the dis-information around the 9/11? Evidence of doctored images that were screened by "reputable" news channels? unexplained explosions. Dubious coroner reports etc. Why the astounding silence in the media about the biggest case of banking fraud in the world? Why was Bin-Laden killed and buried in silence, if he was one of the greatest terrorists in the world. What example of justice was that setting. There's a lot that doesn't add up. And I'm not saying that all conspiracy theories are true either. But there is an astounding amount of dis-information out there and we all need to be vigilant instead of shouting Idiot/Moron at anyone questioning and looking for more suitable answers, rather than just accepting the status quo.

      unbann.fidel - 2013-01-09 12:49

      "Oil as a basis for going to war is another prospect all together , if they wanted oil they could have made a deal with Saddam as many others did." I'm amazed by your ability to keep making excuses (spin) for these robber barons. Who do you think would have determined the price and the quantities, and how come this didn't happen. The rules of Empire have never changed. If wealth is not handed over on demand, then brute force will be employed to take it. I detect some dose of cognitive dissonance at play here. A reputable US senator admits to going to war in Iraq for control of its oil fields and you want to spin this as if this quote is taken out of context. Ever thought of working for Zuma as his spin doctor? You must think that you're dealing with idiots here!

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2013-01-09 13:47

      Did Chuck Nagel send the troops to war ? No , another reason he was a contravertial pick by Obama because of his notorious comments. He also voted in favour of the Iraq war. Now , lets use a small mental experiment ; even if they went to war for oil , which is better ? That iraq's oil is funding the exploits of Saddam and his crime family or administered by the US and Iraqi govt, that oil going into the global market (which determines price) ? (its just a thought experiment). I agree the rules of empire don't change , empires don't give their conquests up , which is a rather important distinction. @chronic - I'm all for sceptical outlook but seriously the 9/11 inside job thing is goose chase . There is way too much positive and collabrative evidence for it , just think about the scale of this conspiracy for it to be real . How many people would need to be involved , silenced and paid off , its literally tens if not hundreds of thousands . You have admissions , wreckage , eye witness testimony and the ceaseless terror attacks and attempts before and since 9/11 . there are many oddities , co-incidence and things you'll never know about an event much like a crime and just like other events like JFK , Pearl Harbour ect you'll have those that use this for a 'alternative' narrative .

      unbann.fidel - 2013-01-09 14:24

      "Did Chuck Nagel send the troops to war ? No" Yes, his vote carried weight whether the US went to war or not. "another reason he was a contravertial pick by Obama because of his notorious comments." Notorious to who, this is a subjective word and what matters is whether it is truth or not! "I agree the rules of empire don't change , empires don't give their conquests up , which is a rather important distinction." I'm glad that we can both agree that all of these bogus wars are mired in empire building, nothing else, no spreading of democracy or finding WMDs nonsense! "Now , lets use a small mental experiment ; even if they went to war for oil , which is better." Better for who. Did you ask the Iraqis killed and brutalised by the decades of sanctions, finished with the invasion? Did you ask the Iraqis in Fallujah, with the huge spike in rates of cancer? Did you ask the many Iraqis who have split along sectarian lines, Shia vs Sunni vs Christian vs Kurds? Did you ask the Iraqis who have daily power cuts and a dysfunctional sewage system? Your Mr market wouldn't have determined how much the Iraqi government charged the foreign companies drilling for oil in that country. It's for the same reasons that your bogus Mr market overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran and other countries, because they were charging too much for their products. You are deliberately being obtuse!

      unbann.fidel - 2013-01-09 15:27

      Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant. (They plunder, they slaughter, and they steal: this they falsely name Empire, and where they make a wasteland, they call it peace.) -Tacitus about a Roman campaign in the century following the Third Punic War.

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2013-01-09 15:52

      Who is the empire ? Saddams Iraqi regime or the Coalition forces? If you say both then who is malevolent and who is benign . Just remember , 2 expanionist wars on its neighbours , destruction of the Iraqi wetlands , an emperor ... sorry dictator and the use of wmd's on his population as a hint .

      Michael Hawthorne - 2013-01-10 15:44

      19 Arab muslims outwitted the most sophisticated military defence system in the world - 4 times in succession They defeated the laws of physics - by having collapsing buildings fall at free fall rate They defeated the laws of chemistry - by melting steel girders [2750F] with aviation fuel [1517F] They brought down THREE WTC buildings (#1,2 and 7) by hitting only TWO of them Each building happened to fall neatly into its own ‘footprint’ All of the hijackers were on board - we’re not sure yet why none of their names appeared on any of the flight manifests At least five of the hijackers turned up alive and well, after their suicide missions on 9/11 - they now live in the middle east - some interviewed by the BBC A plane hit the Pentagon (one of the most guarded buildings in the USA) - Unfortunately no CCTV footage of the actual plane exists (the wreckage, plane parts, luggage and bodies were never found) Cell phone calls were made at altitudes and speeds that are usually impossible (over 2,000 feet / over 230 mph). We still don’t know how they did this

  • abuzakariyah.abrahams - 2013-01-09 09:24

    It is unfortunate that side-line commentators dont know anything about Islam. If fundamentalism means when a religious follower practice the fundamental and basic principles of a religions, like a good doctor follow the fundamental teachings of medicine. Then call me a fundamental muslim. The term has been negatively indoctrinated towards the muslim faith!

      LanfearM - 2013-01-09 10:26

      Well abuzakariya.abrahams, there is quite a good reason why non-muslims think that fundamentalist muslims are negative, disruptive and inhumane. For what actually IS the basic principles of islam? The Five Pillars? Everything in the qur'an? All the hadiths or only some of them? Muslims themselves don't even agree on this. Muftis and imams frequently argue about interpretations, just like other religions' scholars do. Is it a basic principle of Islam to forcibly convert the "unbelievers"? Are christians and judaists actually considered "unbelievers", since the three of you all believe in the same god, yet follow different prophets and doctrine? And so I can go on? There comes a time when one cannot hide or justify inhumane and violent behaviour with "culture" or "religion". For if we continue to do that, I can do whatever I want that harms another person(s) and just say as excuse "it is my culture" or "religion" or "satan made me do it" or somesuch and then avoid responsibility for our actions.

  • abuzakariyah.abrahams - 2013-01-09 09:26

    It is unfortunate that side-line commentators dont know anything about Islam. If fundamentalism means when a religious follower practice the fundamental and basic principles of a religions, like a good doctor follow the fundamental teachings of medicine. Then call me a fundamental muslim. The term has been negatively indoctrinated towards the muslim faith!

  • tasneem.cader.7 - 2013-01-09 09:32

    That sentence is not even finish...bt take a half line out of any book an it won't depict wot it suppose to, the meaning will def change an the reader will def be deceived!

  • bone.marrow.501 - 2013-01-09 09:33

    This will only make individuals who have sense to be more curious about Islam and Islam will keep on being the fastest growing religion in the WORLD

      LanfearM - 2013-01-09 10:27

      It is NOT the fastest growing religion in the world! ffs, how many times must we post the most recent and up to date statistics?!

      bone.marrow.501 - 2013-01-09 12:27

      Statistics done by who? By the enemies of Islam and then posted on e net by enemies of Islam. Trying to fool who? Why are they so nervous up to the point of putting up ads,l know why...they are loosing the crowd.

  • abuzakariyah.abrahams - 2013-01-09 09:38

    It is unfortunate that side-line commentators dont know anything about Islam. If fundamentalism means when a religious follower practice the fundamental and basic principles of a religions, like a good doctor follow the fundamental teachings of medicine. Then call me a fundamental muslim. The term has been negatively indoctrinated towards the muslim faith!

      abuzakariyah.abrahams - 2013-01-09 11:50

      good day Lanfear. I take it you did some research on Islam via the internet and thats good. I do understand you concern about various interpretations of the Quraan but fact is GOD preserved the arabic text in its original form for man to study. So focus should be on the arabic text. Man err, so dont empasise on man. More importantly, investigate the existance of GOD first. Thanks

  • abuzakariyah.abrahams - 2013-01-09 09:42

    Islam is the only non-Christian faith that believe in Jesus pbuh and that honour christians and Jews by calling them 'the people of the book' (bible and torah). This is an interesting fact that should be investigated by all.

  • noedig.greene - 2013-01-09 10:09

    (Those ads implied enemies of Israel are "savages"). this is the same Israel that collects & hold Palestine revenues because Palestine has no airport or harbour as it was not recognised as a state, if you know wat CIA & Secret services do in this Islamic states shocking. Unfortunately the attacks and counter attacks kills thousands of innocent souls.

  • freddie.s.swart - 2013-01-09 11:57

    It ia not religion. It is people with their agenda that is causing all or this. War and violence also occur in atheist countriew. So stop blaming God for the gried of people.

  • tasneem.cader.7 - 2013-01-09 12:02

    The reasons for 9/11 seems even more clearer now.they have almost every non-muslim on board with them 2 bliev Islam is a evil religion.now they can take random lines outv the Quran an make false acusations an the ppl will bliev without questioning! Sad tyms ahead

  • TimestoVanDyk - 2013-01-09 13:10

    To those who think the only sources of information are YouTube, Al Jazeera or what ever that is, BBC, CNN, and so on and so on. U might at well give up on ur quest to seeking the truth. Call me a moron if u must. But I would rather be that than deny the truth. After all, all great people in history were once called names. U guys are busy saying Muslims are evil while u here calling those who have done no wrong to u insulting names. Something just ain't right.

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