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No female bishops for Church of England

2012-11-20 20:55

London - The Church of England's governing body on Tuesday blocked a move to permit women to serve as bishops, leaving the church facing more years of contentious debate.

Following a day-long debate on Tuesday, opponents mustered enough support to deny the necessary two-thirds majority among lay members of the General Synod.

The defeat was a setback for Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, who retires at the end of December, and his successor, Bishop Justin Welby. Both had strongly endorsed a proposed compromise that they had hoped would end decades of debate.

Passage of legislation to allow women to serve as bishops must be approved by two-thirds majorities in the synod's three houses: bishops, priests and laity.

Synod members were voting on the latest compromise which calls for church leaders to "respect" the position of parishes that oppose female bishops - without saying exactly what "respect" means.

The vote was 132 in favour and 74 against. In separate votes, bishops voted 44-3 in favour with 2 abstentions, and clergy voted 148-45 in favor.

Church officials say it may take five years to go through the process of taking new legislation to a final vote.

In the day-long debate, many speakers expressed regret that they were unable to agree on a way forward.

"Whatever the outcome, there is no victory in the coming days. It is a train crash," said Reverend Angus MacLeay, summing up for the opposition.

Sister churches of the Anglican Communion in Australia, New Zealand and the United States already have women serving as bishops.

Southern Africa joined that group on Sunday with the consecration of Ellinah Wamukoya as the Anglican bishop of Swaziland.

Comments
  • squeegee.pilot - 2012-11-20 21:06

    The trolls will be out soon... Come on, where are the usual suspects Meme.. Delusion.. etc....

      PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-11-20 21:31

      Talking through your squeegee pilot again? So tell me, squeegee, do you agree with this ruling?

      arthur.hugh - 2012-11-20 22:54

      Haha Squeegee. Well, there's no room for a bunch of women in a pedo club any way.

      PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-11-21 08:57

      @ Meme - Gosh, Meme, never thought of it like that before... Sjoe. Puts it in a whole new perspective for me. Thanks.

  • faizieishlah.shabalala - 2012-11-20 21:24

    Jobs for the boys. Or pals

  • peter.mansfield.395 - 2012-11-20 21:34

    This is news?

      andynct - 2012-11-21 09:45

      More of a joke really. A women is the head of the church but no women bishops allowed. To be consistent they should dump the Queen as head of their church. They just voted to be more irrelevant.

  • PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-11-20 21:42

    In this day and age? Really? I honestly can't believe it. Sheesh. Makes my blood boil and I'm not even a feminist.

      Desilusionada - 2012-11-20 22:42

      Listen ST, I will get Moobs to sort you out. Change your attitude immediately, he has spent much time in educating you in how a woman must behave. LOL. All jokes aside, feminist or not, it is totally sad. Bunch of chauvinists....

      sheamus.drager - 2012-11-21 07:56

      I find intresting that the bishops and priests voted yes and the laity said no. So the top mananagement and the workers don't agree. I guess that covers the whole of society then?

      PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-11-21 08:59

      Meme - I've just seen your comment above. Made me stop dead in my tracks, lemme tell ya. You really do make me think. And I really do like it. Don't stop. Evar!!

  • charmaine.mcdonald2 - 2012-11-20 21:46

    Women have spiritual values and gifts as well and they will make better leaders

  • jim.linsell - 2012-11-20 22:12

    In this day and age. Women are the water carriers. Well done Church Of England. No wonder Sunday congregations are declining! Obviously God is a man!

  • Justin Mettew - 2012-11-20 22:12

    Where is the DA when you need it? *spare me, I know the voting happened in England.

  • guy.p.morrison - 2012-11-20 22:36

    God damnit

  • andrew.austin.718 - 2012-11-21 08:05

    Was just wondering why the need for a vote? Aren't these guys all in a relationship with God, and hold conversations with Him daily - so it should be obvious to just ask Him what to do and of course everyone will get the same answer.

  • fredpotgieter - 2012-11-21 08:55

    There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages.

  • ryan.melville.142 - 2012-11-21 12:06

    The best the haters can do is quote scripture out of context with the whole Bible and call their opponents names. Oh, and there were plenty of times in history when atheists ruled and millions died for opposing their rule. So haters, wanna live in China, Russia, Cambodia or Nazi Germany when those places had their pagan and atheist rulers? And that was just within this last century! Fools, take everything that you believe to be good and hold it up to the example that Christ is. Now, whatever does not show any signs of Christ's character is not from Him so it is neither condoned nor supported by Him. Thank God that I know Him! For if your mean, callous attitudes reflect true atheist culture, then I am sure that it will not be long before people like you will be the ones with pitchforks and torches hunting down the faithful and sending them home to eternity. See, it won't be you "logic" and "science" at work then but rather your irrational, emotional and sinful selves who do not want to hear any other Truth but that which you have decided it good for you and you alone. Why don't you quote the Scriptures that deal with the future to come and how people will behave exactly like this and already are (and have in the past to smaller extents)? We welcome your persecution because it bolsters our faith. We know that we do not perish in vain. Go for it!

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