Obama, Putin unite in warning to Syria

2012-06-18 22:59

Los Cabos - US President Barack Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday called for an end to violence in Syria and said its people should be allowed to democratically decide their future.

"In order to stop the bloodshed in Syria, we call for an immediate cessation of all violence," the leaders said in a joint statement, after meeting in Mexico following days of antagonism between Moscow and Washington on the issue.

"We are united in the belief that the Syrian people should have the opportunity to independently and democratically choose their own future."

Putin told reporters after meeting Obama for the first time since he returned to the presidency that the two leaders had found "many common points" on Syria, where violence is spiralling into an all-out civil war.

Washington has become increasingly frustrated over Moscow's refusal to allow the UN Security Council to take firmer action against President Bashar al-Assad over his brutal crackdown on civilians.

Obama said after the two hours of talks that both he and Putin agreed on the need for a "political process" to prevent civil war in Syria and pledged to work with UN envoy Kofi Annan to try to end the crisis.

In their statement, the leaders said that Syria's future must be worked out by "Syrians themselves" in the "framework of Syria's sovereignty, independence, unity, and territorial integrity".

Russia has been concerned to avoid a repeat of the international mission in Libya when it was assured the West was not bent on regime change, but then saw allied war planes help the opposition topple dictator Muammar Gaddafi.

US officials have said they want Russia's help to create a political transition similar to that which ushered Yemen's president Ali Abdullah Saleh from power in February after a year-long uprising.

"From my point of view we have found many common points on this [Syria] issue," Putin said after the talks, adding that Russia and the United States will continue discussions on how to deal with the ongoing violence.

  • nkosinathi.sinanda - 2012-06-19 01:22

    The Cold War is still a maintained Foreign American Policy.

      CapeTownRob - 2012-06-19 08:28

      A thought-provoking point. No doubt the Great Game is still being played, although Russia doesn't have the ability to project power as it used to, and the threat of nuclear strikes has been significantly dialled down since cold-war days. There's also a new dimension in that China's powers have increased, but its focus is mostly on the South China Seas.

  • jans.opresser - 2012-06-19 01:36

    more lies and propoganda from this site I see? Putin did NOT warn syria on anything. it is clear as day that news 24 is printing

      komorison - 2012-06-19 02:21

      That's the mainline media for you, shouldn't be surprising.

      Fidel - 2012-06-19 07:28

      News24 "journalists" are a bunch of stenographers!

      jaba.kov - 2012-06-19 08:09

      Why would he (Putin) 'warn' Syria if he sent them attack helicopters this month? All that is being done is buying TIME so that Assad could kill as many civilians as possible to crush the protestors to save his own life and that of the ruling minority (and with it Russian & Chinese interests). Obama is falling for Russians lies. Osama’s appeasement policy will backfire with the deaths of many more tens of thousands of Syrian civilians.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-06-19 10:02

      Fidel, ""News24 "journalists" are a bunch of stenographers! "" Nobody forces you to go to "News24" This is not China, Russia or Iran, or one of your other 'favorite' countries. We have a choice of plenty different media here, but must admit, NONE will satisfy your absurd Sixties way of thinking. If you don't like a newspaper, why the heck buy it, and than write comments to it, that hardly anyone agrees with. IT IS CRAZY !! You are like a Jehova Witness, you chase them them away from one corner, 5 minutes later they are on the opposite side !! They, AND YOU, don't know when to stop !!

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-06-19 10:20

      Im sure you're more intelligent than me and I know you love to patronise, but you are just coming across as a whining git to be perfectly frank.

  • komorison - 2012-06-19 02:19

    "Russia has been concerned to avoid a repeat of the international mission in Libya when it was assured the West was not bent on regime change, but then saw allied war planes help the opposition topple dictator Muammar Gaddafi." Get rid of the CIA/Western/MI6 backed "opposition". "Assured" the West is not bent on regime change? What a joke! It's the same Libya/Afghanistan/Iraq style Amerika and it's cohorts geopolitical intrigue to progress Amerikan expansionism, to satisfy greed and to feed the USA Security/Military Industrial Complex. The eventual bombing the hell out of Syria by good old NATO boys to "restore" democracy and also to isolate Iran even further.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-06-19 08:00

      All the while, as you continue detaching yourself from reality, Syrian families are being butchered by the self-styled bloody surgeon of Syria.

      Fidel - 2012-06-19 08:13

      The rebels in Syria are learning a brutal lesson. If you stage an uprising, and you do not have the resources to overthrow your oppressors, people, many people, innocent people will die. Their pain, their suffering, their deaths, will be squalid and pointless. This is an eternal truth.

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-06-19 08:36

      lol - really ! Libya/Afghanistan/Iraq are cut and paste copies and can be dealt with , with template foreign policy. American expansionism ? of course they have taken so much territory away from other nations (one would ask why not protest against occupied Tibet) and dancing for Russia , who has its own history with Afgan and its rather large communist imperial ambitions . Love how every time it leads to the same set of repeated comments void of substance,hallmarks of a naive black and white perspective. Poor , humble and innocent Assad ,can he not just rule his families country and people how he wants! Daddy said he could.

      jmasha3 - 2012-06-19 08:47

      Any country where the west and Americans stick their noses it turns into a mess.Some stereotypical hypocrites believe evrything that is American and European is right and democratic,that's nonsense.The West/Americans don't care about democracy its all about their political,economic dominance and looting of mineral resources of other countries.Their interest in this Syrian conflict is not peace but IRAN and weaken Russia and China's growing influence in Asia and Africa.If they really believed in democratic values and human rights then they would have dealt with the Israel/Palestine issue long time.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-06-19 08:54

      Have you noticed that Assad, with Russia's help, is destroying Syrian and butchering Syrians in their homes. What is the matter with you that you are so blind. WAKE UP!!

      Fidel - 2012-06-19 09:03

      @Ninja Ever heard of proxy governments or puppets, who do the bidding of a foreign power against the wishes of his citizenry. It's called neo imperialism and doesn't require the acquiring of new lands. What do you suppose the US has all those military bases abroad, and looking to expand them into Africa in the form of AFRICOM? Your problem is that you do no know what the real intentions of American right-wing hawks are, and they are hardly secret, but this is too uncomfortable for you to accept. "I am not blaming those who are resolved to rule, only those who show an even greater readiness to submit". – Thucydides

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-06-19 09:22

      Japan Germany South Korea ect. Hardly failures , lost national identity or regressed economically and at the forefront of human rights advocacy . If you think installing democracy is going to instantly change everthing and make everyone rich and sing kumbaya in utopia then you living in a dream world . It does provide a platform for long-term political stability which translates to economic stability and growth . Seed to flower concept. It makes far more economical sense to have a stable economic state to trade with than forceful economic expansion , that theory is absent of logic and we've moved on since the mercentilism.

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-06-19 09:44

      Nothing is uncomfortable to accept , it just requires stronger evidence of support for me to believe . Just as i think neo-imperialism is a load of BS , Marxist waffle . Its a thoery proposed (like puppet govt theory) to work up the public into a fear based anger at a foreign enemy to deflect failing (most often for dictatorial regimes) of the current rulers. I worry about American right wing hawks about as much as Islams religous mandate of global domination , grand idea's but never going to happen. Problem with debates like this is they start about the situation in Syria and as per 'truther' tradition leap frogs to very different topics od which they have some inside knowledge that they can 'see' . All it does is take away from the intial topic and wastes everyones time.

      Fidel - 2012-06-19 10:06

      In order to understand what is happening in Syria, you need to understand why it is important for the neo cons to crush Iran, and what alternatives Iran gives to the intl financial system and the emerging developing countries, and who is threatened by this. You are not going to see any evidence or proof by reading the same source of material, from the same school of thought, you need to read outside MSM. By the way proxy and puppet governments are a historical fact! The US has helped install them throughout history. Look no further than the Shah of Iran or Pinochet in Chile, to name but a few.

  • Gavin - 2012-06-19 07:12

    Putin you f'ing hypocrite, you are no different than the creature that won't step down in Syria.

  • Zahir - 2012-06-19 07:26

    While russia continues to supply syria with weapons

  • fred.fraser.12 - 2012-06-19 08:04

    As far as I am concerned, I want Obama out. Any leader who allows this to continue while being in the saddle of the strongest power on Earth, with the strongest military alliance on Earth, is not a leader. He's a politician.

      Fidel - 2012-06-19 08:16

      Obama is the leader of the US only, no one else besides Americans have asked him to be their leader.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-06-19 08:42

      An immature perspective, Fidel, one that offers nothing to the women and children being killed and raped in their homes by an unelected dictator. Weak. No back-bone. No resolve. Just powerlessness.

      Neutedop - 2012-06-19 08:44

      Fidel, And yet you support a Butcher who is not elected by his people? You only believe in democracy when it suites you're argument.

      Fidel - 2012-06-19 09:09

      That is the problem with people who espouse Bush's binary world view , "you either with or or against us". I am neither against the rebels nor with Assad. I am against staged revolutions that destabilises other countries so that some foreign power can gain a foothold in the region and entrench its hegemony unopposed.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-06-19 10:17

      Neutedop, Fidel does NOT believe in democracy. Full stop !! Nowhere in the world, No time in history, has ever a dictator won an election. For Fidel, Nelson Mandela wasted his life for democracy, which according to Fidel is just a "noisy circus every 4 to 5 years" ..........!!!!! EXTREMISTS ABUSE THEIR FREEDOM, TO DENY OTHERS THE SAME !!!!

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-06-19 10:26

      War and occupation can never be reconciled with the principles of democracy. The failure of democracy to control unaccountable elites in Western countries as they go on colonial rampages, murdering people - is itself the proof that the system is flawed and not worth bringing to other people through violence.... The riposte to the lie that Democracy is worth killing for lies in the corrupt system that allows the killing in the first place.

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-06-19 12:06

      Your just making stuff up. The riposte to the lie that Religion is worth killing for lies in the corrupt system that allows the killing in the first place. (you can insert any word you like in place of religion , democracy , freedom ect).

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-06-19 12:25

      That's a bit selective, read my post in its entirety, because the last paragraph supports what precedes it, and that statement can be equally true to the topics you have mentioned as well.

      mundu.olewega - 2012-06-19 17:50

      Actually America does'nt have a dog in this fight. Other than Syria's allegance to Iran, why should America foot the bill to change the regime? When will China or Russia step up to the plate? Oh that's right they are too evil to stop a massacre.

  • cyanideandhappiness - 2012-06-19 09:00

    There will be no more war... We must focus ourselves and voice our opinions on these issues, I am glad to see that Obama and Putin are united that Syria must sort this one out themselves, whether it's true is a different story...

      Fidel - 2012-06-19 10:10

      George Orwell perfectly described the future of the world: endless War waged by the superpowers.

  • komorison - 2012-06-19 15:54

    @ Fidel, well put all along. One can see you have read and researched widely and most important of all, you have not accepted or believed the trash, lies and deceit dished up by the corporate/government sponsored and controlled mainline media. People need to open their eye's and take a good look around them and go do some research.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-06-20 04:29

      In the meantime, Assad has told you he's the bloody surgeon of Syria, and Kofi Annan has said Assad is not complying with the peace-plan and is committing atrocities across Syria.

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