Olympics: Israel wants minute's silence

2012-04-24 21:54

Jerusalem - Israel has asked the International Olympic Committee for a minute's silence at the opening ceremony for the London games in July to remember its athletes killed at the Munich games in 1972, the foreign ministry said on Tuesday.

"Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon has written officially to the IOC asking that the 2012 games in London open with a minute's silence remembering the members of the Israeli squad killed at the 1972 games in Munich," a ministry statement said.

A spectacular hostage-taking by Palestinian militants from the Black September organisation at the Olympic Village that year climaxed in the killing of 11 Israelis and a German policeman as well as five militants.

The London games open on July 27 and run to August 12.

  • Bobby - 2012-04-24 22:15


      Preshen - 2012-04-25 11:37

      Is a minute of silence offensive to Deaf People ?

  • Marysia - 2012-04-24 22:20

    appropriate yes! But why not include an extra minute silence in remembering the thousands of innocence women, children and elderly killed by Isreal in Gaza that the world allows isreal to get away with.

      John - 2012-04-24 22:34

      Really? Please send us a link or two in support of your statements.

      michael.a.devilliers - 2012-04-24 22:34

      Explain to me how that is relevant to the olympics?

      Fred - 2012-04-25 05:54

      Are they innocent when they attack Israel almost daily? Yes, women and children too. Children are taught at Kindergarten age to grow up and fight Israel. Imagine that.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-25 07:03

      Don't do it !! Keep politics right out of the Olympics !! There are plenty other ways to remember those so cowardly murdered.

      Jacqui - 2012-04-25 11:32

      John, don't be stupid, Google is there for people like you, you know the ones without general knowledge. Geez give me a break.

      Fidel - 2012-04-25 11:40

      @Fred There's nothing wrong with Palestinians teaching their children to resist foreign occupation.

      Fred - 2012-04-25 13:46

      Fidel, you're almost completely devoid of normal morals and a true sense of right and wrong.

      Fidel - 2012-04-25 19:18

      Who appointed you the the arbitrar of morality on news thread, you moron.

      Fred - 2012-04-25 19:33

      When you advocate putting children in harms way, any children, you can expect push-back, not only from me but from all normal people.

      Fidel - 2012-04-25 19:49

      You are over-thinking Fred, teaching children about resistance is just that, a lesson, as you pointed out that kindergarten children were being taught the history of the resistance. Palestinians want their children to grow older as well and get their own children who will continue their fight for justice. They do not have a death wish on their off-springs. Sometimes children don't need to be taught anything Fred. I grew up in apartheid SA and saw and experienced it with my own eyes without my parents having told me anything about the struggle of Africans. When boers shot at Africans, they didn't care whether there were woman or children around. I smelled teargas for the first time when I was nine years old and I knew then who was shooting at us and our enemy, no one taught me these things. Who knows it feels it!

      Fred - 2012-04-25 22:03

      I didn't point that out Fidel. I pointed out that children are being taught to fight Israel when they grow up. That's indoctrination of children based on manipulations and lies. It's actually abuse. Totally different to your experiences of real oppression.

      Muhammed - 2012-04-25 22:03

      Oh Poor Fred at it again! Hahaha! I should have expected this! He got his facts all wrong and once again demonstrates his intolerant nature. He is a hater of peace. He is a hater of Palestinians. He is a hater of children and innocent people. He himself has not denied that he support racism and that he supports cold-blooded murder. Yes Fred- you have not denied this when I asked you. So, you still want to talk about hypocrisy Fred? Do you still feel that Israel has a right to bomb up women and children? Oh yes, you even support rape, Fred. No when the Palestinians defend themselves from these EVILS, you call them the terrorist.

      Fred - 2012-04-25 22:27

      I absolutely do not support racism of any kind, nor murder. Where on earth do you get this idea from. And I absolutely cannot wait to see the Palestinian people have their own land, and live in peace with Israel. I think this time is coming closer. Once the manipulating, lying, self-serving and violent dictators are completely gone, it will be closer. The challenge will still be to undo all that mental-emotional programming the Palestinians have done to themselves and their children, that fuel the almost daily attacks, which Israel defends itself against.

      Muhammed - 2012-04-25 22:46

      Now, suddenly, SUDDENLY, when it is caught out RED HANDED, it tries to defend itself. So many words of denial and self-defense and a projection of so high morals, yet devoid of contrition. So it wants us to believe it is fair and just? I know all too well the ploys or things that speak with forked tongues. I know what this thing, fred, is.

      Fred - 2012-04-25 23:38

      Quite an inhuman diatribe Muhammed. I'm a human bring, not a thing. There's no denial in what I wrote, just statement of fact.

      Gerhard - 2012-04-26 15:15

      Do you mean the Gaza where 6 year old girls are getting married to 30 year old paedophiles?

      Ask - 2012-04-26 16:45

      @Gerhard - I think you are either referring to the NG Church or Catholic Church... both denominations had 12 men walking around with a young prostitute... and singing YMCA...

  • John - 2012-04-24 22:24

    'A spectacular hostage-taking'. This is a vile glorification of murderers and is at odds with common decency. It shows News24's utter bias and propagation of hate, and by glorifying the hostage-taking and subsequent deaths, complicit and synonymous with the acts and quilty of hate speech, and promoting racism.

      Fred - 2012-04-25 05:54

      An overreaction, to say the least.

  • Cassandra Olivier - 2012-04-24 22:45

    Good idea

  • Muhammed - 2012-04-24 23:06

    News24 reporting is bias. What about the thousands of innocent people - women, children, men - killed by the 'israeli' army over the decades?

      Fred - 2012-04-24 23:32

      Through your distorted lenses, you're right. Are you willing to give your land back to the Khoi-San yet? They were its original inhabitants. It was sacred to them. You're demanding that Israelis give their land to the Palestinians, notwithstanding that they've been on it for thousands of years. Your ancestors acquired your land from those who took it from the Khoi-San.

      Fred - 2012-04-25 00:18

      The biased reporting is on those other sites you visit, the ones that actively and tacitly call for the elimination of Israel.

      Ask - 2012-04-25 03:11

      @Muhammed - I may not be pro zionist; but I think out of respect for the deceased; it is a good gesture, however, you will need more than a minutes silence for the Palestinians that were not only displaced, but systematically killed. Your request for a minutes silence will not be entertained... you have to try the Human Rights Groups for this. As Fred so eloquently implied in his comments: Israel invaded, occupied and displaced Palestinians... because he, the box that he is, uses the pathetic excuse of the Khoi-San... it was not enough what they did here in South Africa... now watch closely the negative votes...

      Fred - 2012-04-25 05:56

      I implied no such thing Joe. But I understand that you, with your distorted view based on faulty beliefs, would read it that way.

      Fred - 2012-04-25 05:58

      Furthermore, Palestinians are not systematically killed, whatever that means. Many, not all, Palestinians attack Israel almost daily. Israel defends itself, sometimes too rigorously yes, but what would you do if you were attacked in your home almost daily? What would you do?

      Ask - 2012-04-25 07:09

      @Fred - your quote "Israel defends itself, sometimes too rigorously yes, but what would you do if you were attacked in your home almost daily?" The operative point in your quote is "what would you do if you were attacked in your home" - am I missing something here... who drew 'FIRST BLOOD'... who displaced, expelled innocent Palestinians from there homes... when the state of Israel was being created; if you search your conscience, I'm assuming you have one... can you blame these people; I hope they return this compliment to you.. it is not a Muslim issue as Palestinians are both Muslim and Christian. This is a human rights issue. It was the same story in SA... you have short memories and then you talk sh1t about our sources... like I said before... your best response is '?'... you hypocrite...

      Muhammed - 2012-04-25 07:29

      @AskJoe: thank you for your comments. I agree with you. About Fred: I have reached a point where I realize that we may never agree on the issue of Palestine, so in this regard I ignore him. He is relentless in debating flawed analogies and he obstinately rejects the truth. He passionately supports apartheid and will be more than willing to incite hatred between people. Alas! There are many other people like him. Note how News24 will delete this comment - they too are sadly anti-Palestinian - and like you so correctly mentioned that Palestinians are BOTH Christians and Muslims. May we never fall short of projecting and speaking the truth. Ps: please feel free to befriend me on Facebook.

      Adil Smit - 2012-04-25 11:08

      Fred, why do you think Muslims took land from Khoi-san? Are you South African?

      Jacqui - 2012-04-25 11:39

      Fred and where do you think the Palestinians have been living for thousands of years? Your bias towards Israel and your total disregard for the Palestinians is shocking. You should experience the animosity of Israeli woman and children towards Palestinian children walking to and from school and your heart would weep. How women can teach their children such blatant hate, especially with their tragic history is beyond me.

      Jaba - 2012-04-25 12:09

      hi Jacqui - plz provide proof for a Palestine pre-1956. Not the land mass that the British created (BTW the British called the Jews Palestinians; while the Arabs they just called Arabs.) They are an invented people - they should be Jordanian but were made "Palestinian” by the Arab League in order to delegitimize Israel. Same with the Arabs of Gaza – they are in fact supposed to be Egyptian but also made in “Palestinians” by the Arab league. The Land was divided between Muslims and Jews. The Jews agreed but the Muslims went to war… and lost… and lost…and lost another 5 wars. Now their only way to beat the Jews of the Middle East is to delegitimize them. People like Muhammed above are the same people that run the Arab league. These people (religious Muslims) believe that the Jews sinned – and now Muslims are the “new chosen people.” They have been feeding the world anti-Israel propaganda with the only aim of killing of the Jewish state of the Middle East. Fact remains… Muslims have 50 countries they could call home –the Jews… have One, and that is still too much for racists like you. Jacqui you have been fed propaganda for so long... and now…you are what you eat.

      Jaba - 2012-04-25 12:19

      While the Palestinians & the Arab world commemorate the anniversary of another war that they lost against Israel... Maybe they should sit back and reflect about why they keep on losing wars. The crux is that Allah wants Israel to exist and stay strong - which is why Israel will never lose a war. The Qur'an relates the words by which Moses ordered the Israelites to conquer the Land:"And [remember] when Moses said to his people: 'O my people, call in remembrance the favour of God unto you, when he produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave to you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people, enter the Holy Land which God has assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.'" [Qur'an 5:20-21] Moreover - and those who try to use Islam as a weapon against Israel always conveniently ignore this point - the Holy Qur'an explicitly refers to the return of the Jews to the Land of Israel before the Last Judgment - where it says: "And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.'" [Qur'an 17:104] To all Muslims please read your Qur'an (The land was put aside for the Jews your Qur'an says so)

      Jacqui - 2012-04-25 12:44

      Jaba, you should not follow Newt Ginrich so closely. You copied and pasted selectively and thus your arguments hold no water. Come to think of it arent we all invented races?.

      Boom - 2012-04-25 13:27

      AskJoe, why do you ignore the expulsion by the arab states of Jews when Israel was formed in 1948? If you really want to ask who drew first blood, maybe you should look at the declaration of war against Israel by the arab states on the very day Israel was formed. Or maybe you should look at the collaberation of the arabs with the nazis during World War 2. Or maybe you should look at the occupation of the land of the Israelites by arab forces, who colonized most of the middle east. Then you can answer who dre first blood.

      Fred - 2012-04-25 13:47

      Askjoe, you're missing a lot. This has been pointed out to you again and again.

      Fred - 2012-04-25 13:51

      Muhammed, you ARE a hypocrite. Again, you refuse to give your land back to the Khoi-San from whom it was taken. Your ancestors acquired it from those who took it. Yet you demand that Israelis give their land back to the Palestinians, when they've actually been on that land for thousands of years. This is hypocritical.

      Fred - 2012-04-25 13:57

      Adil, see the above message to Muhammed. It sets out the position clearly. In a previous thread Muhammed wrote a long account of how it was only morally right that the Israelis give their land back to the Palestinians, from whom, according to him it was taken, and he would do this if he was Israeli. He went further and said Israelis should be executed for stealing the land, but he wasn't demanding this. Yet all the while he's occupying land taken from the Khoi-San, that his ancestors acquired from those who took it.

      Muhammed - 2012-04-25 17:34

      I made a comment which is based is factual and truthful. The comments that has followed - at least, some of these comments- are unfortunate. Those who are wise can clearly make out the hypocrites. They speak with a forked tongue and contumaciously enforce their warped ideologies. The authors of such tragic comments wage insulting and personal attacks in an attempt distract the reader from the truth. Ultimately truth always prevails, despite the majority of people disliking it.

      Fred - 2012-04-25 19:37

      The hypocritical attitude that you hold, Muhammed, based on faulty and dark beliefs, has been clearly expressed above, and is a true account of what you wrote. It's there on the Israel threads for all to see. A beauty of the Information Age.

      Muhammed - 2012-04-25 21:51

      @ Fred: are you well? Yes I said what I said and I stand by it. I will defend what I said without shame. What I said is the truth. I know that you will never see it as such. And this is so because we come from opposite ideologies. You call it terrorism and I call it an act of self-defence. The world of difference that this makes (unless you subject yourself to the truth, Fred) is the reason why you and I may never find common ground. We all seek peace, justice and freedom. But this peace must be based on justice and equity. Not pieces of land being stolen and genocide. What you refer to as darkness is to me eternal light! Don't you see that your claptrap comments has exhausted itself?

      Fred - 2012-04-25 22:11

      That's why you're being a hypocritic. When you give your land back to the Khoi-San, you can then demand that Israelis give their land to the Palestinians. You'll still be wrong, because Israelis are living on land that historically is theirs, notwithstanding what you're being taught in your chauvinistic Madrasa. But at least you won't be a hypocrite. You're actually living on land that belonged to the Khoi-San before it was taken from them and sold or given to your ancestors.

      Muhammed - 2012-04-25 22:39

      It must be half-witted if it cannot realize that comparison to the Khoi-San is barbaric. I know this character Fred for some time and I know it supports going into peoples homes and raping females, blowing them up with petrol, slitting the trouts of their children and shooting their fathers in the head. It, this fred character, celebrates hideous crimes against Palestinians, because it is a Zionist. It has a forked tongue that is a master of lies.

      Fred - 2012-04-25 23:39

      This is the darkness I speak of, Muhammed. Really dark.

      Jaba - 2012-04-26 13:06

      "raping females, blowing them up with petrol, slitting the throats of their children and shooting their fathers in the head." got any proof for you lies Mo?

      Muhammed - 2012-04-26 15:08

      @ Fred and Jaba: you are racists and I am sorry but this is where I shall depart. I don't need to prove anything to you because even if I tell you that you mother gave birth to you, you will reject this fact. So, good bye.

      Fred - 2012-04-26 17:44

      Bye Muhammed. I hope you see the more-real light soon. It's beyond the fear and self-importance, at the end of that.

  • Fidel - 2012-04-25 11:26

    The rogue apartheid military outpost can eff off! Things like a minutes silence a reserved for countries who abide by intl principles and norms, and not rogue colonialist.

      Boom - 2012-04-25 13:18

      I assume you are talking about the Palestinian territories when you talk aobut an apartheid state. Last week Hamas sentenced a palestinian to death for selling land to a Jew. In Israel on the other hand, any person of any religion or race can and do own land. So which is the apartheid state? Or maybe you mean Saudi Arabia, where you cannot practice any religion except for islam, on pain of death. Or maybe you mean turkey, where there is a genocide against the Kurds. Or maybe you mean Sudan, where there is a genocide of the African Sudanese by the arab Sudanese. But surely you do not mean the democratic state of Israel.

      Bradley - 2012-04-25 13:54

      Fidel allow me to buy you a ticket to Israel and you go tell the IDF to their face to eff off..? what ya say?

      Bradley - 2012-04-25 13:55

      P.S its a one way...

      Dawood - 2012-04-25 22:50

      yes Bradley..they can only do anything with a gun in their hands...f....n murderous sissies

      Fred - 2012-04-25 23:47

      Dawood, as has been pointed out to you too, you have to look deeper, beyond what is being presented to you by the starkly martyring ideologues of the Middle East. Do you understand what this means? You're allowing yourself to be drawn in, hook-line-and-sinker, played. Your real caring nature is being used by the self-serving, oppressive regimes to keep them in power. And the Palestinians are suffering the most, unwittingly at your hands too. You have to be smarter than you're currently being to see the truth of what is really happening.

      Gerhard - 2012-04-26 15:27

      Why does Islam impose a tax on Christians living in there countries?

      Ask - 2012-04-26 16:50

      @Gerhard - wow, I wonder why, perhaps you can enlighten us... I was under the impression that it was a tax for ALL non Muslims and not exclusively for Christians... do they charge the same rate for all Christian denominations, because if that is the case, it will have huge administrative issues; Christianity having 26000 denominations etc...

  • Jacqui - 2012-04-25 11:31

    I also want to remember the old Palestinian whose olive trees were chopped down by the Israelis leaving him without an income.

      Jaba - 2012-04-25 12:14

      They should have made peace and not have gone to war with Israel… You make the bed you sleep in. The Palestinians’ have chosen the path of violence, murder, deception and killings… and now they are paying the price. They also voted in a terrorist group called Hamas in 2006. The Palestinians will continue paying the price for choosing war rather than peace with Israel. When the Palestinians vote for peace – there will be peace, until then its disputed lands – not occupied.

      Boom - 2012-04-25 13:22

      I also want to remember the old Jew who was murdered by a suicide bomber in a cafe. Let me remind you, Jacqui, that until the second intifada, started by Arafat after he was offered 98% of what he demanded, the palestinians could move freely into Israel. It was only until the murder of Israeli citizens, both arab and Jew, by the palestinian suicide bombers, that the security barrier was made necessary, which led to the incident you are referring to. Israel not only has the roght, but the obligation, to defend its citizens against murderous attacks.

  • Jaba - 2012-04-25 12:18

    How short people's memories are... Whenever people talk about the Israeli question, it inevitably ends in a chicken and egg style argument about who occupied where illegally first. The bottom line is, if Hamas and the other political groups in the disputed regions began acting more like civilised political parties rather than terrorists with the sole aim of killing Israeli civilians (remember, if Israel had the same aim this whole issue wold have been put to bed years ago due to their military might ie the killing of all the Palestinians) then Israel would not have a leg to stand on and the US and the west would have no choice but to put pressure to bear on Israel to make concessions to the now truly peaceful and democratic Palestinians.

  • Fred - 2012-04-25 14:00

    The most amazing thing is the size of the so-called Arab world, versus the size of Israel. The former is virtually the size of the entire African continent, the latter is the size of the Kruger Park. Imagine that. And the Syrian and Iranian regimes, together with the other despotic regimes, have been trying to eliminate Israel. That tiny piece of land that the Jewish people have been inhabiting for thousands of years and call home now. Talk about envy and racism. Talk about using the Palestinians, abusing the Palestinians really, for their own self-serving aims. Thankfully these regimes are being dismantled one by one. When they are gone, there will be greater peace in the region. Hallelujah!

      Muhammed - 2012-04-25 21:55

      Hahaha Fred! Hahaha! What a sick justification. What. A sick mind! Truly, if you can't make any sense, at least make a little sense. Ps: I want you (all) to dislike and report this comment.

      Fred - 2012-04-25 22:19

      Israelis are living on land that rightfully belongs to them, Muhammed. They've been on it for thousands of years. This is recorded fact. This includes the so-called "occupied territories" which Israel captured when it was invaded twice by the unelected neighboring regimes in the 1960's. Your madrasas is lying to you. You on the other hand are actually occupying land that belonged to the Khoi-San, and taken away from them.

      Muhammed - 2012-04-25 22:31

      Astonishing- it actually believes itself. Either that, or it is a complete (not a partial, but a complete) idiot - in which case I must pardon it for its ignorance. But I also know all too well that ignorance is no excuse. So it must be racist to make such inaccurate comments. Racism is what relegates humans to an 'it'. It will dislike this comment plenty fold.

      Dawood - 2012-04-25 22:58

      @ Muhammad how can u even give attention to racist,gullible,foolish ppl like Fred...u seem more intelligent than that..the almighty has plans for the evil in this world,and Fred will never be impartial till the day he dies...his world is based on white superiority over black

      Muhammed - 2012-04-25 23:16

      @ Dawood: Thank you for your good advice.

      Fred - 2012-04-25 23:53

      The astonishing thing is your inhuman, totally cold and heartless response, Muhammed. Again, this is the darkness I speak of, in you. It's violent, cruel and cold. We all have this in us, at least in potentia. You're choosing to be it, live it, act it out. It's awful.

      Fred - 2012-04-25 23:55

      Dawood, you're making things up. And as had been pointed out above, unfortunately it's you who is being gullible. Who's suffering the most by it: the Palestinians.

      Fred - 2012-04-26 00:02

      Imagine if all the energy you're choosing to direct towards darkness, violence, retribution, negative judgement, and combat, you'd choose to direct it instead to peace. Both of you. Choose peace. Imagine if the Palestinians chose this, at least their leaders. Imagine this. Choose it. Again and again. Then you'll be answering the call of your Higher Self, of the Divine. Then you'll be fulfilling your true destiny, not this deluded, dark, violent one.

      Jaba - 2012-04-26 13:09

      Fred how can u even give attention to racist,gullible,foolish ppl like ...Muhammed u seem more intelligent than that..the almighty has plans for the evil in this world,and Muhammed will never be impartial till the day he dies...his world is based on Musim superiority over the 'non-believer'

      Fred - 2012-04-27 21:34

      I think the interchange is valuable, Jaba. I think we all learn. I know I do. Consciousness shifts, ever so slightly. Even a one degree change now, is a massive change in years to come, moving along that trajectory. It's truly amazing to me how connected we are today. These interchanges, the mixing of ideas, even the confrontations, create the friction needed for change to happen.

  • Ask - 2012-04-26 11:39

    @Jaba, Fred and Boom - you guys are smoking some serious 'Boom'; the zionists drew first blood, displaced and murdered Palestinians... when you guys (excluding Fred, he is khoi-san verskirik..and smoking some other sh1t.. whose forefathers have been murdering the khoi-san to this present day) decided with brother Theodore Herzl in 1895... that you needed a homeland; an action plan was put into place... your first choice was Uganda. - no ocean... then you decided Palestine... without consulting the Palestinians; you consult everyone else but the people that are going to be systematically exterminated. Then you idiots quote from the Quran; trying to justify your Nazi mentality, how thick can you be.. even Moses was pissed off with you guys... if Jaba bothered to read the Old testament and the Quran and not behave like Avengalist. Moses disowned you people because you worshipped a calf...perhaps you still believe in calves, that is why you have no mercy in your hearts, Moses shunned you people, and he said that you will search for the promised from now until the end of time... You now carry on as if the Palestinians never existed... who the F%$k was everyone trying colonise Palestine since Alexandra and before; then you have the audacity to insult our intelligence by saying that no such people existed... you are nothing but swines with a Capital S... Seeing that you idiots like quotes, here are few of mine... I hope Iran creates the Balance of Power in the region...

      Fred - 2012-04-26 12:49

      Utter made-up, delusional nonsense. The Israelis are living on land they've lived on for thousands of years. This is recorded fact.

      Fred - 2012-04-26 12:57

      Your quotes are made up by violent anti-Zionist zealots. They're unreliable, like your perspective on what is really happening in the Middle East.

      Jaba - 2012-04-26 13:12

      wrong...Arabs drew first blood. loving death more than life... This is why the Arab world is full of wars and violence. religion of peace...Or is it religion of submission.

      Ask - 2012-04-26 14:52

      @Jaba - wrong... the zionists drew first blood True the Arab world is full of wars, if I were you, I would worry; it appears they are going through a cleaning up process at moment; getting rid of all the riff raff. You drove the Arabs to violence... Don't you know what Islam is... you read the Quran... @Fred - you are a product of evolution... but that got stuck somewhere in being human and being zionist...

      Fred - 2012-04-26 14:55

      Whatever that means

  • Ask - 2012-04-26 11:40

    "The past leaders of our movement left us a clear message to keep Eretz Israel from the Sea to the Jordan River for future generations, for the mass aliya [immigration], and for the Jewish people, all of whom will be gathered into this country." Former Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir declares at a Tel Aviv memorial service for former Likud leaders, November 1990. Jerusalem Domestic Radio Service.

      Fred - 2012-04-26 14:56

      An altered quote to support and enable violent anti-Zionism

  • Ask - 2012-04-26 11:40

    “We must expel Arabs and take their places." David Ben Gurion, future Prime Minister of Israel, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.

      Fred - 2012-04-26 14:57

      Another altered quote to support and enable violent anti-Zionism

  • Ask - 2012-04-26 11:41

    "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.

      Fred - 2012-04-26 14:57

      Another altered quote to support and enable violent anti-Zionism

  • Ask - 2012-04-26 11:41

    "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

      Fred - 2012-04-26 14:57

      Another altered quote to support and enable violent anti-Zionism

  • Ask - 2012-04-26 11:42

    "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum"

      Fred - 2012-04-26 14:58

      Another altered quote to support and enable violent anti-Zionism and, unwittingly, the suffering of the Palestinians

  • Ask - 2012-04-26 11:42

    "Zionist colonization must either be terminated or carried out against the wishes of the native population. This colonization can, therefore, be continued and make progress only under the protection of a power independent of the native population - an iron wall, which will be in a position to resist the pressure to the native population. This is our policy towards the Arabs..." Vladimir Jabotinsky, The Iron Wall, 1923.

      Fred - 2012-04-26 14:58

      Another altered quote to support and enable violent anti-Zionism and, unwittingly, the suffering of the Palestinians

  • Ask - 2012-04-26 11:43

    "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.

      Fred - 2012-04-26 14:58

      Another altered quote to support and enable violent anti-Zionism and, unwittingly, the suffering of the Palestinians

  • Ask - 2012-04-26 11:43

    " The present map of Palestine was drawn by the British mandate. The Jewish people have another map which our youth and adults should strive to fulfill -- From the Nile to the Euphrates." Ben Gurion

      Fred - 2012-04-26 14:59

      Another altered quote to support and enable violent anti-Zionism and, unwittingly, the suffering of the Palestinians

  • Ask - 2012-04-26 11:44

    "The only solution is Eretz Israel [Greater Israel], or at least Western Eretz Israel [all the land west of Jordan River], without Arabs. There is no room for compromise on this point ... We must not leave a single village, not a single tribe." Joseph Weitz, Director of the Jewish National Fund, the Zionist agency charged with acquiring Palestinian land, Circa 194. Machover Israca, January 5, 1973 p.2.

      Fred - 2012-04-26 14:59

      Another altered quote to support and enable violent anti-Zionism and, unwittingly, the suffering of the Palestinians

  • Ask - 2012-04-26 11:45

    "We must do everything to insure they (the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget." David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.

      Fred - 2012-04-26 14:59

      Another altered quote to support and enable violent anti-Zionism and, unwittingly, the suffering of the Palestinians

  • Ask - 2012-04-26 11:46

    "A Christian state should be established [in Lebanon], with its southern border on the Litani river. We will make an alliance with it. When we smash the Arab Legion's strength and bomb Amman, we will eliminate Transjordan too, and then Syria will fall. If Egypt still dares to fight on, we shall bomb Port Said, Alexandria and Cairo... And in this fashion, we will end the war and settle our forefathers' account with Egypt, Assyria, and Aram" David Ben-Gurion, one of the father founders of Israel, described Zionist aims in 1948

      Ask - 2012-04-26 15:15

      @Fred - you missed one...

      Fred - 2012-04-26 15:43


      Fred - 2012-04-26 15:46

      Why do you rely on ideas that are so obviously wrong? How does it serve you? It keeps you in delusion and makes you look foolish.

  • Ask - 2012-04-26 11:46

    "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister) quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

      Fred - 2012-04-26 14:59

      Another altered quote to support and enable violent anti-Zionism and, unwittingly, the suffering of the Palestinians

  • Ask - 2012-04-26 11:46

    "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." Isreali Prime Minister, Yitzhak Shamir, in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

      Fred - 2012-04-26 12:54

      Joe, these are all "quotes" from anti-Zionist websites. They're manufactured, not real. It's best to use credible sites without an obvious agenda that distorts reality. No wonder you're so wrong about what's happening.

      Ask - 2012-04-26 15:03

      @Fred - do yo expect me to find these quotes from pro-zionist websites...? what a 'box'... Adil Smit asked a good question... Are you South African? you appear to be to thick to be a SA... cit... FYI they are not from any websites... try again... '?'

      Fred - 2012-04-26 15:55

      No, just credible websites without obvious agendas. Hello! Lying doesn't help. It just makes you look worse and lowers your credibility further.

  • Ask - 2012-04-26 11:47

    "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.

      Fred - 2012-04-26 12:50


      Fred - 2012-04-26 14:59

      Another altered quote to support and enable violent anti-Zionism and, unwittingly, the suffering of the Palestinians

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