Pope recalls life under Nazis

2011-05-28 23:09

Vatican City - Pope Benedict XVI, who was forced to join the Hitler Youth as a child, has made a rare mention of life in Germany under the Nazis, calling it a "dark time".

The 84-year-old, German-born pontiff turned his thoughts to 70 years ago, a time "already marked by war" and in which Adolf Hitler "had already subjugated" one country after another, including Poland, Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg and France.

Benedict said "it looked like the continent was in the hands of this power, which put the future on Christianity in doubt".

Benedict was speaking during an audience on Saturday at the Vatican with members of a German Catholic group in Regensburg, which he entered as a 14-year-old boy.

The pope's off-the-cuff remarks were reported by Vatican Radio.

  • ageing_liberal - 2011-05-29 05:26

    Hey Rattzi, "though shall not bear false witness". Which part of this commandment is it that you do not understand? With your Hitler Youth background you must know that the Catholic Church actively supported fellow Catholic Adolph Hitler and for the Nazis. There is overwhelming evidence for this including Hitler's own speeches and writings and photographs of your clergy smiling with Hitler and giving him Nazi salutes. "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." -Adolf Hitler My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them. - Adolf Hitler The designers and implementers of the holocaust were not atheists, they were God believing Christians (mainly Catholics and Lutherans) and lying about it now is not going to wash the stains away.

      Mzungu - 2011-05-29 08:24

      you protestants and your phobia and hatred of all things catholic. The south african way

      Krolie - 2011-05-29 09:13

      @Mzungu. Go and READ a bit about WW2. If that is too tedious for you, then you can watch some documentaries. Broaden your knowledge a bit. It is a known fact that the Catholic churces assisted the Nazis to escape at the end of the war and afterwards. If they were so innocent and feared for their lives for instance, then WHY did they not disclose the escape routes they worked out for these Nazis, the houses they were to stay over during the escapes, the contacts along the routes and the destinies of all these sought after Nazi killers? Many of them successfully hidden away for years and dying of old age? No Mzungu. It is not hatred towards the catholic church or catholics perse my friend. It is time that said catholics and churches acknowledge the role THEY played in these attrocities towards mankind. Hopefully the pope, by mentioning that he was in the Hitler Youth, would cleanse his soul by acknowledging his part during the war. It is a known fact that the Hitler Youth, armed as well, did their part according to Hitler's whims. Being 14 years old at the time, he was well advanced opposed to the much younger of age forced into the group. So, he would have had some experience by then!

      Anarchist - 2011-05-29 09:13

      @ Mzungu you open your mouth without thinking or knowing facts! I was a RC until i discovered just what "ageing liberal" just stated, the RC Church has many dirty dealings in history from burn at the stakes to killing people for being in possession of a bible. Hitler's "Christianity" was the Great Mother of Harlots, CATHOLICISM, NOT the Christianity taught in the King James Bible. The Bible teaches that we are all sinners deserving of hell (Romans 3:10,23; 6:23), but Jesus Christ died upon the cross to pay for our sins (Romans 5:8; John 3:16). We can be saved simply be trusting Jesus Christ as our Saviour, asking Him to forgive us of our sins and take us to heaven when we die (Romans 10:9-13, John 7:40; 10:1,9; 14:6). The Deutsche Christen (DC) became the voice of Nazi ideology within the Evangelical Church (the Religious Right of their day). They proposed a church "Aryan paragraph" to prevent "non-Aryans" from becoming ministers or religious teachers. Most church leaders solidly supported the "Judenmission." Only a very few number of Christians opposed Nazism such as the "Confessing Christians" (a Church movement not recognized by the Protestant orthodoxy) headed by Dietrich Bonhoeffer. The support of Nazism by the majority of German Christians and German Christian leaders shows the danger of mi xing religion with government. you can read further at one site .....

      maceye - 2011-05-29 11:14

      @Mzungu, you know what I hate more than a right wing conservative, a liberal freaking white, they all speak about equality, but the blackman must know his place. Hey, dumb liberal whites, ignorance is bliss, but a little knowledge on any subject is downright dangerous. Go read your history, about germany, before WWII, the centrist party, which was supported mainly by catholics was ousted by the Hitler's Nazi party. Secondly, the catholic church saved over a million jews during WWII, that even the chief rabbi of rome converted to catholicism. Most jewish scholars at the time praised the efforts of the catholic church. Just because Hitler was born a jew, his influence was that of atheists, like Frederick Nitschze. Go do some research, you dumb protestants. Your religion is dying, a slow death.

      maceye - 2011-05-29 11:24

      Do you know what really gets my goat is the hypocrits of some whites, who sit on their pedestals, and judge other nationalities. If you apply the same, logic to that of Pope Benedict, then the very same whites in this country should be judged just as severly. Did you receive a far superior education under apartheid, did you receive better opportunities under apartheid, did you sit back while they tortured and killed innocent blacks, if you said yes to all of these. You are just as guilty as the government of the time. You know what, I hate liberal whites, because of their sanctimonous smug attitude towards Afrikaaners in this country, trying to put the blame on these hardworking folk, who at least you know where stand with them.

      ageing_liberal - 2011-05-29 15:45


      zaatheist - 2011-05-29 15:47

      Let's try this again. Maceye is an obvious poe.

      trunkbutt - 2011-05-29 18:32

      the holocaust was a myth

      Passionate.Parrot - 2011-12-30 09:33

      Would like to agree with you on some points of your letter, Hitler was a Catholic and the Catholic church did support him. However as a Potestand and believing Christian I want to add that the Catholic church does not stand for true Christianity hence the Reformation. Please read your history, that is why the reformers broke from the Catholic church because they had broken from the true Christian Faith. The Catholic religion is based on church dogma and not the bible. Christianity was born out of Judiasm, our Saviour and Lord was Jewish, so it was an attack on the Jewish nation by our arch enemy Satan who uses evil people to achieve his desires. God, Christ and good will prevail in the end and we will be victorius. Just to add the Popes remark shows he has not idea of what true Christianity is about, proof.

  • Reon - 2011-05-29 07:18

    And you believe this guy?

  • Philosopher - 2011-05-29 08:17

    Really? Then the real truth about life under the Nazi's:

  • WHITEPRIDE - 2011-05-29 12:43

    @ maceye shame ny dear you have so much anger that you can not control, must be those immature whoremoans that you cant control, btw the TRC stated and investigated the claims you made about white killing blacks, guess what? only 700 odd could be attributed to South African Security forces, the 20 000 + rest was BLACK ON BLACK violence and as we can hear in the tone of your answers the fruit has not fallen far from your roots either. It would be nice to see people answer things here without bringing out that POOR Old Donkey called Apartheid, its been beaten so many time its legs are broken the back is gone and its just the head left, ITS SO OVER USED it has lost its emphasises. But never the less back to the point, it is documented in Israel how the Roman Catholic Church smuggled Nazi War Criminal out of Germany after the war and hid them in many parts of the world were many of them never stood trial for their crimes, Thanks RC Church they could not have done it without you !

      maceye - 2011-05-29 13:06

      with a name like "whitepride", I rest my case.

      JESTER - 2011-05-29 14:09

      @ Maceye did u even have a case?

      maceye - 2011-05-29 14:49

      @jester, you guys are joke, and then some. You all sit around your fire place drinking red wine, discussing philosophy and the plight of this country, while the rest of rome burns. Have you ever got off your high horse and did anything for the poor in the community. No, you sit in your high tower, and judge the catholic church, but don't lift a finger to better humanity. The last time I checked, the catholic church is the most prominent NGO in this country trying to help the poor and especially HIV suffering patients. You white liberals make me sick with your condescending behaviour, you think you've read a little philosophy and maybe history hear and there, and all of a sudden you become experts in the field. And BTW I am not black, and I didn't vote for the ANC. And yes, I have e few degrees behind my name and enjoy reading philosophy from time to time.

      ageing_liberal - 2011-05-29 15:45

      This maceye fellow is a poe.

      Anarchist - 2011-05-30 12:06

      @ Aging liberal BWHAHAHA - Poe's Law is an axiom suggesting that it's difficult to distinguish between parodies of religious fundamentalism (or, more generally, parodies of any crackpot or extremist belief) and genuine proponents of religious fundamentalism, since they both seem equally insane. Conversely, real fundamentalism can easily be mistaken for a parody of fundamentalism. For example, some conservatives consider noted homophobe Fred Phelps to be so over-the-top that they argue he's a "deep cover liberal" trying to discredit more mainstream homophobes. I think that says it all for maceye and the need for them to state they are white (apologetic white) and that they have some degrees behind their name (inferiority Complex) and typical double standards of claim one to have a condescending behaviour,but yet out of their own mouth they are doing the same...tut tut tut poor whitie, BTW Im not white

  • Passionate.Parrot - 2011-12-30 09:10

    One question, how can the Pope say that Hitler's regime could have ever put Christianity in doubt? Wonder just what he meant by that remark? Hitler was not a Christian, and Christianity has survived many evil rulers, including Domitian, Nero. God and Christ are greater than any evil and Christianity will never be extinguished.

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