Predictor of May 21 doomsday unwavering

2011-05-20 10:00

San Francisco - The US evangelical broadcaster predicting that Judgment Day will come on Saturday says he expects to stay close to a TV or radio to monitor the unfolding apocalypse.

Harold Camping, aged 89, previously made a failed prediction that Jesus Christ would return to Earth in 1994.

But the head of the Christian radio network Family Stations Incorporated says he is sure an earthquake will shake the Earth on May 21, sweeping true believers to heaven and leaving others behind to be engulfed in the world's destruction over a few months.

"We know without any shadow of a doubt it is going to happen," said Camping, whose Family Radio broadcasts in more than 30 languages and on US and international stations.

His supporters have posted about 2 200 billboards around the United States about the coming apocalypse, and dozens of followers are driving across the country to spread the news.

Volunteers also handed out pamphlets warning about May 21 as far away as the Philippines, telling people God had left clear signs the world was coming to an end.

Camping, a civil engineer who ran his own construction business before turning to evangelism, said he planned to spend May 21 with his wife and watch the doomsday unfold.

"I'll probably try to be very near a TV or a radio or something," he said. "I'll be interested in what's happening on the other side of the world as this begins."

End-times prophesy industry

Like his last prediction, Camping's doomsday date is based on his reading of the Bible and a timeline dating back to ancient events including the Biblical flood survived by Noah.

Camping's pronouncement of a specific date for the apocalypse puts him outside the Christian mainstream.

But his contention that the souls of believers will leave their bodies and enter heaven in a rapture is a central tenet within many Christian churches.

Stephen O'Leary, an expert in religious communication at the University of Southern California, said the idea of rapture first appeared in Christian teaching in the 19th century.

"It is very appealing to people," said Barbara Rossing, professor of the New Testament at the Lutheran School of Theology at Chicago who describes "an enormous end-times prophecy industry" including video games, board games, books and more.

Tom Evans, a spokesperson for Camping, said at least several tens of thousands of people listen to Family Radio's message.

One of those is Allison Warden, aged 29, of Raleigh, North Carolina, who most recently worked as a payroll clerk for an Ohio company and now runs the end-times website

"My boss does not agree with this but has been very understanding and supportive," she said. "He thinks next week I'll be back to work like normal."

  • PMG - 2011-05-20 10:06

    I sure do hope he is wrong.

      GetitRight - 2011-05-20 10:17

      Naahhhh!...the Americans have the Anti-Christ that goes by the name of DSK under armed guard in NYC.

      Kenko - 2011-05-20 10:20

      GetitRight, tell us more.

      wesleywt - 2011-05-20 10:22

      The ANC won, so Jesus isn't coming on Saturday.

      Adam - 2011-05-20 10:23

      I sure hope so too PMG - the thing is, when we read the story of Noah in the Bible, there were too many people that made fun about what Noah was warning about. We all know the ending to that story. I think that if you dont believe what the man is saying, dont make fun about it. Just keep quiet. If there was some immenent danger, I would rather be prepared for the worst.

      Renny - 2011-05-20 10:30

      I would have believed him if he wasn't american.

      LloydSix - 2011-05-20 10:31

      Hahahahahaa @ Adam

      Matt - 2011-05-20 11:01

      @ GetItRight - I like your thinking, but I don't think it's him (DSK = Dominique Strauss Kahn = IMF dude)

      Vitruvian Man - 2011-05-20 11:02

      I'm sure he is wrong. We all know by now it's 21 December 2012 hehe. BTW Read Zecharia 3:9-10 in the bible and then take a look at the Mayan stone Calender. "See, the stone I have set in front of Joshua! There are seven eyes/facets on that one stone, and I will engrave an inscription on it' says the Lord Almighty, 'and I will remove the sin of this land in a single day." "'In that day each of you will invite his neighbour to sit under his vine and fig tree,' declares the Lord Almighty."

      IandI - 2011-05-20 11:06

      @weslywt The ANC said they would rule until Jesus returns.They have just won the election. Looks like their victory will be shortlived then. Msholozi, can we have the election victory party today please? Only 24hrs left.

      Thys Basson - 2011-05-20 11:10

      In the bible it also says, nobody will know when Jesus will be returning.

      GetitRight - 2011-05-20 11:18 you honestly think I am not aware of that. Come now!

      Vitruvian Man - 2011-05-20 11:22

      @thys...I agree. I also don't believe anybody knows the exact date, even considering things like the mayan calender doomsdate prediction, it might also be incorrectly calculated. I will just accept the day whenever it comes.

  • daaivark - 2011-05-20 10:09


  • tracey.badenhorst - 2011-05-20 10:13

    Oh no its not even payday yet! i miss it by 4 days now it ends before i can party my hard earned money away.

      Slayer - 2011-05-20 10:15

      lol agreed

      Matt - 2011-05-20 11:04

      But if it's the end of days, get a big loan and enjoy the party...

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-20 12:51

      Thats what random loan-sharks are for, aren't they?

  • CapeTownJunk - 2011-05-20 10:14

    The good thing about this event is that it's a highly visible example of someone proclaiming something in the name of his religion, and being proved utterly and embarrassingly wrong in the process. Anything that erodes people's trust in religious authority is A Good Thing.

      Doorboot - 2011-05-20 10:18

      Ag please, what a crap generalisation. You are no better than this idiot.

      brok3news - 2011-05-20 10:19

      Atheists always latch on when some crazy person makes statements representing a certain religion.

      Skaapwagter - 2011-05-20 10:39

      What was this certain religion again? I think the problem is the crazy dogmas religion cling onto. When it is being put to a test people alway try the easy way out to save face. It is easy to say this guy is crazy, a bit harder if you think about what you actually say you believe in, stuff like a talking donkey...sounds a bit crazy to me!

      Daemos1 - 2011-05-20 10:40

      True, the church is it's own worst enemy, i love religious nuts, they motivate people to start believinng in the ultimate god, Logic

      patrickb - 2011-05-20 10:41

      It is so easy to have a go at you religious idiots, because there are so many of you. How the hell did this nonsense ever ever take hold on this planet. From start to finish it is all negative, symbolized by a person dying excruciatingly on a cross. There is so much beauty in this world, just take a look around you!

      Bloodbane - 2011-05-20 10:48

      actuualy he's right, how is any of this more crazy than announcing jesus rose from his grave... and he'll be coming again.... so if you believe that crap why is it so hard to believe this crap?

      stephen scott - 2011-05-20 10:51

      spot on, It's worrying that such a story is even press worthy, America is going back wards.

      Matt - 2011-05-20 10:54

      @ brok3news - ignore the the thumbs down, you are absolutely right. Also watch out for a "I'm smart, you're dumb" attitude that they almost always have right from the start. @ CapeTownJunk - atheism/humanism is a religion too. They spread their hatred of religion with religious zeal. They cling to the failed theory of evolution and big-bang with religious faith, and tell those who prove it wrong their fortunes, again with religious zeal. So just come to terms with it, atheism/humanism is a religion too, just like Christianity, Catholicism, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism et al. BTW - research OOPARTS (out of place artefacts). Then go see what the religious zeal of atheist evolutionists had led to in various cases. Like, destruction of artefacts, firing the discoverers, various cover-ups simply because the artefacts prove dating techniques and evolution theories to be wrong...

      Matt - 2011-05-20 10:59

      @ Daemos1 - if logic is the ultimate god, explain the election results. Or why there are no civilisations that have stood the test of time - even the most stable and advanced civilisations crumble. (actually, why do all civilisations go back only a few thousand years, were we apes for 1 million years and overnight became clever?) Why do democratic civilisations decide with their logic that something is right, only to be shown later that it was wrong? Logic is something of man, and forasmuch as logic is good, it is not fool-proof. Just as much as we have "laws" and commandments from God, who created everything including us and laid down laws - if WE made the laws and decided right from wrong (as I'm sure some of the commentators here believe), don't be surprised if someone offends or kills a loved one because they decided it was right in THEIR eyes. Beacuse that's what happens when WE decide...

      Matt - 2011-05-20 11:07

      @ Bloodbane - can't be much crazier than believing we came from a rock 3.6 billion years ago. So let's respect each other - some us accept Jesus and believe in His coming back, and some of us choose to reject God and instead believe they came from a rock, became soup and then became human via apes. Now enjoy the end-of-world party tomorrow evening and don't go mad... because on Sunday you'll wake up with a major hangover!

      daaivark - 2011-05-20 11:11

      Being critical of religious claptrap does not make one an atheist. An atheist denies the existence of a god. This is not the same as questioning self-proclaimed religious authorities.

      Matt - 2011-05-20 11:27

      @ Daaivark - true - but often one can pick up on atheism from the tone. Encouraging the erosion of religious authority (God)... or calling logic the "ultimate god"... I don't think they're Independent Baptists somehow.

      Bloodbane - 2011-05-20 11:28

      @Matt, we've known for a long time that date techniques are not 100% acurate but they are as acurate as we can get now, it has still shown that parts of the bible are correct in terms of times line and date of certain events, are you saying that the bible is wrong becuase our dating rpoves those events? evolution has never been said to be an exact science however it is more exact and has more proof then anything in any form of religioun. it always interests me that peoplw who believe in a god can not seem to believe in, end of the world caused by god (jesus was seen as just as mad a preechers as this guy in the article) and that they have no trouble beleiveing in god yet scoff at the idea of many gods.... I've people even saying god is real but there are no angels or demon... then god is real and angels are real but no devil or demons.... religion is so full of personal interpritaion and no facts... evolution has facts, evern if they are not 100% perfect yet.

      Bloodbane - 2011-05-20 11:32

      @Matt I preffer to beleive we came from a rock than some high and mighty overload..... but I get your point... I plan on enjoying tonight so much that by sunday I'm going to wish the world had ended! :)

      Daemos1 - 2011-05-20 11:53

      @Matt, Logic has its intrinsic flaws, but it's better than relying on some imaginary friend in the sky that you read about in a book that some weird guy in a robe gave you.

      CapeTownJunk - 2011-05-20 12:12

      @Matt (higher up): Atheism is not a religion. To claim it is a religion is nonsensical. If being passionate about a particular set of values or entities was a religion, then supporting your favourite sports team would also be a religion. Religions are about gods and/or worship. That's the exact opposite of atheism. So as much as you'd like to muddy the waters of the discussion by saying atheism is a religion, people like me can see right through your absurd assertion. As for "I'm smart, you're dumb"... since when is intelligence something to be ashamed of? I've had it up to my ears with that sort of anti-intellectual claptrap. Would you rather be led into the future by a genius or by an idiot?

      Matt - 2011-05-20 12:16

      @ Daemos1- do you think? OK, question. Where do your morals and conscience come from? If there is no God, you cannot explain this. Like, you don't commit murder. For a Jew or Christian, it's easy to explain why - thus saith the Lord. For an atheist, it is impossible to explain. How does one organism evolve such, that it finds (emotions, conscience) murder to be wrong? When this theory preaches "survival of the fittest" - that the weaker species should die off - how, without God, did we decide to feel guilt and compassion about taking another life, and to even protect weaker species? And if we have been here "1 million years or so" and evolved this far, why is a crocodile, allegedly here for hundreds of millions of years, still swimming in the river and will kill anything that gets near it? Why has it not grown legs, built a city and started protesting with "met is murder" billboards?

      Matt - 2011-05-20 12:22

      @ Bloodbane - glad you admitted to believing you're a rock - careful when you go outside thuogh, you may step on Grandpa :-) And indeed, evolution is not perfect - micro evolution aka divergent evolution is a no-brainer, this happened. Kind produces after kind. Bible even says this. So a dog can give birth to a dog with a different colour, or mix within species, but its kind is still a dog. It's the rest that is imaginary... as for dating techniques, depends which ones. RCC, PA, both are terribly flawed and can only go back "so far". Take a dinosaur bone to a dating centre (agency? ha ha) and ask them to use radio carbon dating or potassium argon dating. They will openly refuse "because it is too old". You see, the techniques rely on the assumption that "millions" is a fact. RCC works on the c14 half-life, but fails to acknowledge that equlibrium hasn't been reached. Also, how does the dating work? Well, they take a sample, and test it until they get the figure they wanted. Skin has been dated thousands of years old, and the bone on it is even older! Live animals are found to be "thousands of years old". As for dating techniques proving "younger" things (eg supporting Bible), I'm no expert but they use loads of different dating methods, depending on metal type, layer of chemicals on materials... one of them is sure to work :-)

      Bloodbane - 2011-05-20 12:28

      @Matt I disagree, I dont believe in god and dont need to be told killing is wrong. I believe there will be no ramification in the after life becuase I dont beleive there is going to be one yet, I cant bring my self to be nasty or impolite or steal or kill, nothing at all to do with religion, it's my own belief in right and wrong...

      Matt - 2011-05-20 12:37

      @ Bloodbane - I know you're not a murderder :-) my point was, how do you decide, with feelings of emotion, compassion and guilt, not to commit murder? How do you tell right from wrong? If evolution were true, we should be killing weaker species and murder would actually be a good thing. Yet somehow, we developed this moral conscience that murder is wrong. Where did that come from, if there is no God and the Bible were rubbish?

      Matt - 2011-05-20 12:43

      @ CapeTownJunk - if you woke up at 6:15am every morning, and brushed your teeth at 6:58am every morning, you would be doing so religiously. If you went to Newlands to watch WP or Stormers with every home match, you are attending home games religiously. The word "religion" easily refers to a repetitive action, as well as belief in something. So when the textbooks say that life "must have emerged" from primordial soup (and atheists need evolution + big-bang to explain their existence)... If it were a provable fact (which it is most definitely not), the textbook would say "did come from". But it says "must have emerged". That is pure BELIEF. FAITH in spontaneous creation of life without God. Or, adamant belief (see... belief) that it MUST be FACT that the Big Bang happened. Still no proof. It's belief. As you can ask "where did God come from to create the universe", I can ask you "where did the infintesimal region come from". Both answers are "I don't know". So both of us BELIEVE a story. I believe "in the beginning, God" and you believe "in the beginning, dirt". Yes sir, even atheism is a religion. Sorry...

      Grunk - 2011-05-20 12:48

      CTJ What happens if the genius is evil? I want my future to be guided by logic, passion for justice (of the many, not the few); non-corrupt; and fair. - I'll be in heaven! (Joking - I am anti-religionist by training)

      Matt - 2011-05-20 12:51

      @ CapeTownJunk - nobody would hate intelligence. The Bible even refers to "understanding" some 36 times. My point of "I'm smart, you're dumb" refers to the attitude that reeks from so many humanist/atheist comments. Religion is wrong, believers are living in the Middle Ages, how can people believe in a fairytale book... that's generaly what it boils down to! That is an attitude of "I'm smart, you're dumb". Not specifically referring to this one article - but to many. Again, nobody has anything against intelligence! Well, I sure don't. As long as it really is intelligence. One must be careful to not let their belief get in the way of intelligence (whatever topic or belief, this applies), because that causes their train of thought to deviate, then they end up telling everyone how wise they are, or try to come across as wise and people believe them - when in actual fact they are downright stupid. But I believe Romans 1:22-25 explains it far better :-)

      Bloodbane - 2011-05-20 12:59

      @Matt - lets look at the tribes in the amazon, if you mentioned your god, they kill you and eat your heart, yet they work togther in order to continue to survive. bible has noting to do with that, even animals work together to continue the species. humans have been working together long before the concept of religion came about, people never knew of god or a bible and and believed that their dead lived on as ancestors, nothing to do with god, they only lived together and cooperated because the driving force of all specie's is to continue that species and imporve their odds do survive cooperation is the best was for humans to do and god do not come into whether to kill or not.

      michaelp1 - 2011-05-20 13:00

      @CapeTownJunk - "Anything that erodes people's trust in religious authority is A Good Thing". I know someone who would really approve of your comment - whether you ever really want to meet him face to face is another matter!!!

      CapeTownJunk - 2011-05-20 13:31

      @Matt: Now you're just playing silly semantic games with the word "religion". You're not really derailing the discussion (such as it is) - just leading it down a blind alley to a dead end. Likewise, "belief" is a word with multiple meanings, and conflating one meaning with another is just a way of generating confusion and frustration. In the interests of clear communication, maybe it's best to use words without so much semantic baggage. For example: I don't "believe" in evolution, but I do find it to be a highly plausible explanation for the diversity of life. However, I'll steer away from using the word "believe" precisely because it encourages the type of semantic hit-and-run sniping you seem to think constitutes a valid argument. So if you want to call atheism a religion, all you're doing is saying that you don't really understand atheism or religion - aside from recognising a couple of superficial similarities between them. And that applies to anyone who tries to call atheism a religion.

      Matt - 2011-05-20 13:39

      @ Bloodbane... "lets look at the tribes in the amazon, if you mentioned your god, they kill you and eat your heart, yet they work togther in order to continue to survive." Well you kind of proved my point :-) those tribes that kill and do cannibalism, their god (they still had "a" god, not a very nice one though) did not tell them not to kill, or not to eat each other. And such tribes often engage in human sacrifice, the victims would be within their own tribe, despite working together. Which raises my question again. How did we, without the existence of a god or infallible scripture, decide that killing is wrong? Where is the "absolute" that both tells us that it's wrong, and also programs it into us that we have a conscience if we do it anyway?

      Bloodbane - 2011-05-20 14:25

      @Matt - that goes to show that we have evolved, we have over time come to see that working together we can get more out of life, these tribes that are still arround have not gained what we have, free time and greed. being c"civilised" led us to have more free time to do other things than fight to survive and fight each other, being in cities allowed us to better learn working together is better than killing each other.... btw human sacrifise was something the bible believed in aswell... it advocated killing to apease god, as humans evolved the bible did aswell.. we no longer stone rape victems because our society believes it is wrong... not becuase god told us not to.... according to the bible and the koran stoning is the correct form of punishment...evolution at work, not god

      Matt - 2011-05-20 14:30

      @ CapeTownJunk - did I mention I was an atheist till 6 years ago? I still remember what atheism was like... it's not like I'm talking about another life form that I have no knowledge about. I was one out-and-out...

      Bloodbane - 2011-05-20 14:35

      @Matt - I'm the opposite, was fully christain till I started digging deaper. Now I know how blind I was.

      Matt - 2011-05-20 15:04

      @ Bloodbane - no it doesn't. Your response explains the belief in higher and lower species (they have not gained what we have...). As for us being civilised - what about the Egyptians, Babylonians, Greeks, Romans - each lived a long time ago before we learned of the existence of the "tribes". Yet they were very civilised! Human sacrifice in the Bible? Do tell... possibly referring to Moses and Isaac? That was not human sacrifice, God tested Moses's faith - there was no sacrifice. Human sacrifice is unbiblical...

      Matt - 2011-05-20 15:12

      @ CapeTownJunk. My use of the word "religion" is not incorrect. As for whether one believes in evolution, or finds it plausible - an atheist really has no alternative but to believe in it, as otherwise one has no alternative explanation as to their existence. And in the "battle" between belief and non-belief, one must take sides either way. * either there is a God, or there isn't - no alternative option. * either the earth + contents were created, or the earth + contents created itself - no alternative option. One has to take sides, that goes for many other things in life :-)

      michaelp1 - 2011-05-20 17:23

      @Bloodbane. You mention that according to the Bible 'stoning is a good thing'. In another post you mention that you were a Christian until you started 'digging a little deeper". Talk about exposing yourself - you have just illustrated VERY clearly that you DON"T know your Bible - so you MUST have been scratching in a strange place. I love it when atheists say they used to be Christians etc etc and than proceed to show everyone that that could not have been so with the arguments they use. Sorry Bloodbane but you should have stuck to the old saying I've quoted pretty often ..something about keeping your mouth shut and let people THINK you are a fool than opening your mouth and proving beyond doubt that you ARE one. Research BEFORE you state facts - opinion are something else.

  • Doorboot - 2011-05-20 10:16

    Idiots... See you in Church on Sunday

      CapeTownJunk - 2011-05-20 10:50

      Hehe, are you saying that idiots will be in church on Sunday?

  • quintin.smith1 - 2011-05-20 10:16

    What a num nuts...

  • blondetopaz - 2011-05-20 10:19

    i am a christian but i dont believe in the rapture. the bible does not support this notion. My question is if he is raptured, how the heck is he going to monitor the situation??????????????? Does not make sense.

      Janco - 2011-05-20 10:42

      I would suggest that you read your Bible more thoroughly and maybe get several "editions". The rapture is mentioned throughout the Bible, Old and new Testaments. Some reading:

      Janco - 2011-05-20 10:45

      Sorry, my comment was aimed at the rapture issue and not the end of the world. No-one knows or will be able to predict the end of the world.

      stephen scott - 2011-05-20 10:55

      your not reading your good book properly.

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-20 12:54

      He's going to monitor the situation through a dedicated RSS feed being setup in heaven right now.

      LBS - 2011-05-20 15:30

      That's what I was also thinking, how will he monitor it if he is no longer here!

  • Ryan Oppenheim - 2011-05-20 10:21

    What time does the world end? GMT, CAT, American time-zones? Just want to know if I should try get an earlier tee-off tomorrow.

  • Tired - 2011-05-20 10:22

    Nobody knows the date only the Father not even the Agels or the Son. But we can decern the season as Jesus gave signs of the return. The rapture will happen to those who believe it will happen.The earth will not be a preacher he should know that the millenium will be 1000 years on earth with Christ return. The question is not when will it happen...its are you ready for when it happens??

      Matt - 2011-05-20 10:48

      Funny, I was talking about just that with the wife last night. The end of days is that, after rapture, God will restore earth to what it was like in the beginning and we'll reign with Christ for 1000 years. That's not a destruction of the world, no meteor is coming for us, relax everyone :-) But, after the 1000 years, what then? The Bible does say "the heavens shall pass away with a great noise" (i.e. Big Bang... which comes at the end, not the beginning, dear atheists)

      stephen scott - 2011-05-20 10:56

      what a half wit.

      poenskop - 2011-05-20 11:01

      Amen. Well put. No one knows the time or date. period.

      Matt - 2011-05-20 11:08

      @ Stephen - we know you are, but we still love you regardless :-)

      thargoz - 2011-05-20 11:11

      I do not believe in god, jesus, and all that crap. But I do not like being called an atheist either as I believe that Richard Dawkins has turned it into just another stupid religion. But Matt, do you also believe that Dinosaur fossils were put on this earth by god to test your faith..................maybe you should watch the beginning of Zeitgeist and see how Christianity was actually formed and how your "Great Book" is one big farce...........

      Matt - 2011-05-20 11:35

      @ Thargoz - yes, I watched Zeitgeist and it gets its facts wrong from the start, so ends up with a wacky conclusion. For example, it bases its "facts" on 25 December being important in Christianity, which it wasn't until way after Christianity came about (and actually, still shouldn't even be relevant, Jesus was not born in December). And no, I don't believe dino bones are there to confuse or test us. They're real! Anyone who says otherwise is deluded. But I don't believe they are millions of years old and I don't believe they were extinct before man came about (which would also be a contradiction of the Bible if that were the case; death before sin is unbiblical). I give no credibility to the make-believe Geologic Column (can anyone even prove this is vaguely scientific) and cannot understand how people blindly accept the "millions of years" when it is based on circular reasoning (they date the fossils by the layer and the layer by the fossils... facepalm). Nor could I ever call evolution etc facts when they still use "proof" that was proven wrong ages ago, even 150 years ago, to this very day...

      thargoz - 2011-05-20 12:16

      @Matt..........really, dinosaurs and humans walked the earth together, and death only comes when sin're a bit deluded I think. But each person has the right to an opinion, and my opinion is you are wrong, about the big bang and so on, and you obviously think I am wrong. So I think we just leave it at that, because Christians and non Christians will never agree......

      Matt - 2011-05-20 12:59

      @ Thargoz - fine by me :-) (but there are indications of dinos and humans together - Ica stones are an interesting topic - one guy claimed he was faking them but as this was during a dictatorship and selling artefacts was highly punishable, and that there are some 50,000 of them... hmm... the dinos depicted in Babylonian walls that weren't 70-million years old... or the footprints in Glen Rose, Texas where dino and human prints were found, including human-in-dino and dino-in-human prints... alternatively read accurately the description of Leviathan and Behemoth in Job 40-41, and wonder...)

      Slayer - 2011-05-20 13:12

      @Matt didnt a apostle take a splinter out of a Tyrannosaurus' paw as well? Please state the archeological references where these findings were noted.

      Matt - 2011-05-20 13:41

      @ Slayer - er, didn't I just give names of instances which can be researched?

      clintmilne - 2011-05-20 13:54

      Well said MATT!!!! I agree 100% with you! There are no proof for the evolution theory! Darwin turned away from God and became a atheist and then came up with the evo theory. That's all it is, a theory with no evidence whatsoever. God created the heavens and the earth!!!! AMEN!!!

      Matt - 2011-05-20 14:31

      @ clintmilne - aww please?

      Matt - 2011-05-20 14:35

      Charles Darwin was a Christian, but on his voyage to the Galapagos Islands took 2 books - the Bible, and Charles Lyell's Principles of Geology which mocked the Bible on every page. The latter made him an atheist. Observing that a bird's beak grows 1/10th of a millimetre during mating season led him to believe in evolution (which was taught by ancient Egyptians and Greeks to btw. Even better - Karl Marx was Jewish and at the age of 17 wrote about how much he loved the Lord. Then he read Darwin's book... and became atheist. He wrote Das Kapital (and tried to dedicate it to Darwin, who declined). That book is the foundation of communism. Just to give a quick bit of history :-)

  • Skaapwagter - 2011-05-20 10:22

    Let's talk about this on Monday...

      Thys Basson - 2011-05-20 11:11

      Why wait till Monday? I'll be talking about it at 00:00:01 on Sunday

      Skaapwagter - 2011-05-20 12:58

      What timezone are you talking about there? ;-) You see, there is always a way out. Heheheheheheh

  • waine - 2011-05-20 10:23

    What is this clot going to say when this does not happen? Will he apologise to his congregation and to all his Christian ignoramus brothers and sisters who believe him. Who will correct this ludicrousness? Who really believes this end times madness? When will these bigots realise that even to level headed Christians, all date setting is futile. If this preacher knew his Bible he would know that it says that nobody knows the time of Jesus so called return, not even Jesus himself. Jesus himself said it would happen while his disciples were still alive - “I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.” Luke 9:27. Those standing “there” when Jesus said this did die and this did not happen even to this day, 2000 years later. There is no other way you can interpret that scripture. Can you predict when a thief comes? The Bible says “He will come as a thief in the night.” On that note, I place idiots like this in the same category as a thief as he sets out to deceive the weak minded tithe paying masses. Harold Camping is no different to any other Christian who believes the world is going to end during his generation as he needs this comfort due to his age and eternal moral uncertainty. Christians have been singing the rapture song for decades only to find that when the record stops the world goes on to meet the next author of Bible prophecy fabrication. This world will continue well after Camping’s death and way after your and my demise. Camping will go down like all the other end time prophets who have incorrectly “predicted” this event over the past thousand years. Lets see if he is really a man. Lets see if he and all his like minded preachers can ask his congregation for forgiveness on Sunday the 22nd May when he has to go to church and face them with egg on his face.

      cj.venter - 2011-05-20 10:45

      so true dude. like this mayan calendar world ending 2012 crap. what if the astronomers simply ran out of space on their stone tablet? lol. idiots.

      Wezz - 2011-05-20 10:50

      Um, a few days later the transfiguration happened and some of them witnessed is. Just read a little further... Next time try not to interpret a scripture if you don’t read the related scriptures that follow. If you read the next scripture it goes something(different translations) like this: "28 In actual fact, about eight days after these words, he took Peter and John and James..." Quite clearly following up on the previous scripture.

      Nats - 2011-05-20 13:01

      @CJ. Didn't they check the stone for PTO? LOL

      Lyndle - 2011-05-20 15:09

      well said!!!!

  • daboss247365 - 2011-05-20 10:24

    ### man, I still got 3 days of paperwork to get through, cant this judgement wait???

      yttocs69 - 2011-05-20 11:21

      O what the hell....I'm going to get my leg over tonight anyway...

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-20 12:56

      I'd ditch the paperwork and go party, it's not like it'd have any meaning afterwards.

  • njabulo.nxele - 2011-05-20 10:27


  • googoodude - 2011-05-20 10:27

    The Bible is very clear we know not the day or the hour! I'm am 100% sure it won't happen tomorrow. It will be a day that we don't expect. Check out All the answers are there....Yes I'm Christian!

      Tamsin O - 2011-05-20 10:35

      Matthew 24:36 - No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father Why is he claiming to know if he believes in the Bible???

      Skaapwagter - 2011-05-20 10:43

      Isn't it also true that the bible talks about certain prophets to which god reveals his plans as to warn humanity? Why forget about this? You sound like skeptics with no faith, reminds me of the people Noah tried to convince...

      Matt - 2011-05-20 10:46

      Amen to Googoodude and Tamsin. The Bible does not give any date at all. So how anybody can claim a certain date and "back it up" with the Bible is beyond me.

      Irené - 2011-05-20 10:49

      well, you yourself said it could happen at any time, we dont know the moment- so scientifically speaking, you cannot be 100% sure it wont be tomorrow (maybe 99.999%). there is still a fraction that this nutjob got his guess right. to refer us to, is as good as refering us to What answers will we find there except some extracts from a plagiarized book filled with caveman superstition? How is that an answer? All you nutjobs are reading the same book, and getting completely different answers from it- shouldnt that be a clear sign that the book you are reading is seriously flawed? its either the book, or its you, make your pick

      stephen scott - 2011-05-20 10:57

      because he was mentally abused as a child,

      Schitzo - 2011-05-20 11:26

      @irene, I was reallllllly hoping that website exists. Just for fun.

      Bloodbane - 2011-05-20 11:36

      @Tamsin O, there are many cases in the bible pointing to pre waring of events are you saying that god could not have decided to warn this guy? I find it extemely interesting that in each case in the bible people reacted the same as all the rest here including you scoffing at the notion that anyone could know, yet according to the bible people have known of past tragities and warned others only to be mocked... hmmm sound familiar?? I think he's a crack pot loony but I think that of all who believe in religion....

      Matt - 2011-05-20 13:01

      @ Bloodbane - if the Bible describes a rapture, a 1000 year reign with Christ, then why would God warn somebody about the world ending on a given day? Even according to Christianity, the guy is a dweeb - but that doesn't apply to ALL of us.

      Bloodbane - 2011-05-20 13:06

      Matt - I know, just want to get people thinging

      Wonderboy - 2011-05-20 13:25

      I am wondering what thong we should thing?

  • Janine - 2011-05-20 10:28

    I have university exams next week and have been studying my ass off. I will lodge a complaint if the world ends before I get the chance to write them.

      colin - 2011-05-20 11:07

      You could have been PAAARTAAYING!!

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-20 12:57

      I think thats exactly his point here.

  • Judicator Enclave - 2011-05-20 10:29

    The flip side is...what if he is right? :7

      Dubya - 2011-05-20 10:39

      Then buckle your seatbelt Dorothy, coz' Cansas is going bye-bye!

  • Valk - 2011-05-20 10:31

    If he is so close to his god that he knows the exact day when he is coming back I don't see the reason for him sitting in front of the TV. F#ck. Everyday looks like the end of days if you spend it watching CNN or Sky or whatever. Dude needs to come out more and realize that this is it. There is no god at the end of the rainbow.

      GLY - 2011-05-20 10:40

      Just Interested, why do you say that there is no god?

      Dubya - 2011-05-20 10:58

      There is no God, why? Because you can't see him right? OK, walk over to the mirror. Do you see your brain? No? So this means you don't have one!

      Matt - 2011-05-20 11:13

      @ Dubya - good one! @ Valk - so there is no God. Do you KNOW this or THINK this? Think about that one. Answer: you THINK this. So your denial of God (atheism) is your religious belief. And ask this - do you know everything? Nope. Do you know half of everything?: Nope. but if you did - would it be possible that God exists in the half that you don't know?

      Valk - 2011-05-21 14:32

      @Dubya and Matt. There is actually enough proof that I have a brain without having to see it. And not believing in something surely doesn't make that a religion. You both need to be educated. Proof your god exist otherwise your opinion means just as little as someone who believes the world will end today. Just as far fetch, in other words.

      Uwe Klopfer - 2011-05-24 11:20

      @valk : why do we have to prove God exists ? No one needed to prove it to us. Without resorting to what seems the favorite these days like the tooth fairy, Santa Claus, the Easter bunny etc can you prove without a shadow of a doubt that God doesn't exist ? I will be the first to admit that I cannot, and no person can prove to someone else that God exists. But what is faith if you can prove it ? Then it isn't faith anymore. You quote the Bible and ask senseless questions about why doesn't God save those or heal those or show Himself so that all can believe etc. As soon as you try to measure something that is immeasurable you have gone from faith to science. Both can co-exist as it does in my life. As soon as you can prove to me without a shadow of a doubt that there is no God I'll accept you are right. But having experienced what I have in my life I personally feel that you are wrong. but i cannot force you or convince you. It is faith. Nothing more and nothing less.

  • Lefty - 2011-05-20 10:33

    Well..At least we are not going to suffer under the ANC any longer..

  • CynicBelieve - 2011-05-20 10:34

    My long life milk haven't even expired yet... nuts!

  • smashly - 2011-05-20 10:34

    Muphy's law the world would end on my birthday!

      poenskop - 2011-05-20 11:04

      Happy Birthday!!! :)

      Matt - 2011-05-20 11:14

      Maybe the birthday party you're about to have will be so cool, it'll cause the end of the world...

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-20 12:58

      hahaha, congrats. If this blows over you should sue the guy for ruining your birthday.

      smashly - 2011-05-20 15:31

      @Martin Great idea! lol then il be rich :)

  • MojoRSA - 2011-05-20 10:36

    Ahhh no, I should have voted ANC... ;-)

  • Gavin - 2011-05-20 10:36

    Hopefully it'll be after the rugby.

  • Dubya - 2011-05-20 10:37

    I'm sure this will be Harold Freakazoid's last prediction - not because it's the apocalypse, but because he'll probably get banned form any public announcements for the rest of his weird life.

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-20 12:59

      Or he'll prob go the way of the other doomsday cults, commit mass suicide with his congregation or something along that line.

  • Althea - 2011-05-20 10:37

    When Camping was asked what he will be doing on saturday, he replied:"I'll probably try to be very near a TV or a radio or something," he said. "I'll be interested in what's happening on the other side of the world as this begins." WHY WOULD HE NOT BE PART OF THIS RAPTURE? SO HE PREDICTS THE END BUT HE WILL BE WATCHING IT ON TV? DOESN'T MAKE SENSE

      Telara - 2011-05-20 10:54

      He'll be watching what happens the other side of the world. The jackass predicted it'll start at 6PM, which means Christmas Island will be the first nation seeing that time. So he'll watch it as it progresses across the world. Time zones chick, didn't you take geography at school?

      stephen scott - 2011-05-20 10:58

      does any religion make sense?

      Dubya - 2011-05-20 11:00

      LOL, well spotted! What a joke!

      Matt - 2011-05-20 11:17

      @ Stephen - I know... there's this crazy bunch who believe they evolved from a monkey, which came from primordial soup, which came from the rocks, then religiously force their beliefs upon the world as if it were a proven thing. (just saying - even those who mock religion are equally religious themselves, even if they don't see it - respect each other's religion!)

      Skaapwagter - 2011-05-20 13:04

      @Matt, you are exploiting yourself as an ignorant uninformed person who likes to bark around like a little chihuahua without any knowledge of what you are talking about. PLEASE read up on evolution before you comment on it. Do not just believe anything your mother told you when you were young... Evolution is a fact. It is a scientific theory in precisely the same sense that gravitation is a scientific theory. There are loads of evidence gathered over years and years of study by thousands of critical scientists. There is no believe required to accept gravitation, just the same for evolution. Sorry mate.

      Matt - 2011-05-20 13:51

      @ Skaapwagter - firstly, leave my mother out of this. She's atheist btw and I used to be as well. Fact? So, where is the proof that a kind can produce another type of kind? Can a dog give birth to a bird? That's never been observed. But that is what evolution boils down to. I know full well what the theory of evolution entails, I just don't use fancy words to look smart, unlike those who hide behind the theory. Would your facts include... * Java man - professor Dubois in Indonesia, who sent a bunch of convicts in Java to find any bones, pieced them together and called it a missing link (fraud later proven) * Piltdown man - human cranium + monkey jaw, filed down, planted in dirt, then "discovered" (fraud later proven) * Peking man - smashed monkey skulls next to tools - remains of perfect human skulls found but covered up (fraud later proven) * Lucy - proven to be an austrolopithicine (excuse my spelling) which still exists today - bones found 1 1/2 miles apart ("fact" proven to be wrong) * Nebraska Man - full "man" and his wife drawn after the find - one tooth - later proven to be a pig's tooth * Neanderthal Man - already proven before Origin of Species to be human remains with ricketts/arthritis - used as "proof" - later when the originals were studied, proven to be human with diseases * Gill Slits in foetus - Haeckel admitted he LIED in court in 1874 in order to get people to believe in evolution These are STILL USED TODAY AS PROOFS. Sorry mate.

      Matt - 2011-05-20 13:52

      @ CapeTownJunk - previous comment by Skaapwagter is an example of the attitude mentioned way above. "I'm smart, you're dumb" see what I mean now

      Matt - 2011-05-20 14:05

      @ Skaapwagter... * Lake Laetoli, Tanzania. There's a layer of rock that came from ash. Dated 4-million years old. Shortly after, perfectly human footprints - proven as such after study - were found. This proves the old age of the earth wrong, or evolution, or both, you decide which. Nat Geo magazine in 1979 featured it - they drew black half-apes (racism?) and edited the footprints to have the toe sticking out. * Skeleton finds. In the past 150 years, various human skeletons have been found that are up to 4 metres tall. Roman Emperor Maximus was 8'6", that's where the word "maximum" comes from. As evolution teaches we are getting stronger and bigger, how is this possible? (another interesting thing - Turkey claims to have the remnants of Noah's Ark - not sure if so. But they found 2 graves with pictures referring to the boat, the graves were ransacked but they have jawbones in the nearby museum to indicate humans of almost 3 metres tall) * Various species, of which fossils were found and dated eg 350-million years old; then the same species is found alive. Did the lobe-finned fish (coelacanth) escape the evolution process for 350-million years? After all, the theory teaches FARM - fish, amphibian, reptile, mammal (which btw is the exact reverse of the Bible's account of creation of animals). There is no remote factual proof of macro-evolution, organic evolution, chemical evolution, cosmic evolution or stellar evolution. Sorry mate.

      CapeTownJunk - 2011-05-20 15:01

      @Matt: Yes, that was a good example of Skaapwagter saying something smart and you saying something dumb. You're peddling cut 'n paste creationist lies as if they were true - which, when in the company of smart people, is a dumb thing to do.

      Matt - 2011-05-20 15:35

      @ CapeTownJunk - I give you my word that I have not copied and pasted one word on this whole page - I typed it all. Not that you'll believe me. But that's ok - quick insults to win an argument tell me more than I need to know about the level of adversary... Anyway, have a good weekend everyone - see some of you on Monday online... oops, the world's ending - maybe not then ;-)

  • Keith - 2011-05-20 10:37

    Do I need to study for my exam on Monday?

      Dubya - 2011-05-20 11:00


      Matt - 2011-05-20 11:15

      No, if it's multiple choice then just choose the longest answer, most of the time it's right...

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-20 13:00

      Or better yet, just choose C. That always worked for me. ....On second thought, ignore that. I alwayse almost flunked my biochem multi-choice.

      Matt - 2011-05-20 14:39

      Lol Martin, did you get that from the one Ben10 episode? (sorry, I have a child who loves Ben10, can't escape it) Normally, what happens is that you're asked to choose what the correct explanation of something is. The idea is that mostly, the longest answer is the one that takes time (and words) to explain the answer in detail and uses key words that you would have studied something about.

  • Daemos1 - 2011-05-20 10:38


  • BlackPoison - 2011-05-20 10:42

    The end of the world is every day. Every day someone dies and to them it is the end of all. So, in essence, why attach a date to it, it will happen for all of us.

  • cj.venter - 2011-05-20 10:42

    he's gonna look like a fool after tomorrow.

      Matt - 2011-05-20 11:17

      We should find Mr T to go to his house and shout "crazy fool" at him. Just so he knows it's definite.

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-20 13:01


      CapeTownJunk - 2011-05-20 13:42

      Ironically, tomorrow just happens to be Mr T's birthday!

      Lefty - 2011-05-20 20:55

      His wife is going to leave him after tomorrow...lmfao

  • cristinatjie - 2011-05-20 10:42

    People made jokes about Noah also !!!!! Rather be ready just in case..

      Dubya - 2011-05-20 11:03

      The difference sweet pea, is that this prediction is completely in contrast to what the bible says. Not even Jesus knows when the end will come (only the Father) so who does Harold think he is exactly to make such a blasphemous prediction.

      Irené - 2011-05-20 11:03

      you actually believe in the literal interpretation of Noah and his Ark? Are you kidding me? Tell me, did Noah collect pairts of all the worlds insects as well as every species found on earth today? In that case, his boat wouldve had to be the size of the Western Cape. It is so laughable that adults can believe this story without considering the logistics of having to collect a pair of every species on earth. So tell me, have you packed your overnight bag for your trip up to heaven tomorrow?

      Matt - 2011-05-20 11:46

      @ Irene - I believe it literally, yes... * Define life - the ark contained those who breath through nostrils - insects breath through their skin. Bugs survive fine in water. * Two of every KIND - so, 2 birds, 2 canines... and 7 of every clean animal (for cleanliness, see Leviticus or ask a Jew). * Going by kind, there are something like 8000 KINDS. There's space on the ark for that. * Noah was old when he built the ark - he wasn't stupid. He'd probably have taken the baby animals as they take up less space, sleep more and require less feeding. * You do know how big the ark was, right... 300 cubits long. Now define a cubit. And work out how big Noah's cubit was. And work out how big Noah was (seeing how old skeletons have been found that were up to 4 metres long, plus possibly the pre-flood world had a higher oxygen content, going by bubbles found in sap). * If God told Noah how big to build the boat, He'd obviously know how big it should be... * who says Noah went to gather the kinds? Bible indicates via-via that the flood was about 4450 years ago. So... * Earth has desertification. Oldest desert is the Sahara - proven to be around 4200 years old. Why is there no bigger/older desert? * Biggest reef (Great Barrier), after 20 years of study, proven to be 4200 years old. Why is there no bigger/older reef? Maybe there's something about this book hmm...

      Bloodbane - 2011-05-20 12:10

      @Matt - one small falw in that example about Noah, there is no evidance on earth any where of a global flood. And the simple answer to why there are no older deserts is climate change... Sahara was a forrest untill climate change changed it into a desert about 5000 years ago, you do know that the oldest walled city in the bible was jerico right... that dates back to 11000 years or 9000 BCE which blows the theory that the earth is only 6000 years old allready....if you look at the size of the ark it could not have floated, there is a limit to the size a boat can be built of wood before the wood will break under it's weight. As to the animals on board look to genetics, you need to certain population size other wise inbreading will wipe out species... also culculate the amount of water it would take to flood the earth and you'll find there is not enough on the planet, also we are a closed biosphere which means that all that water remains on earth, we'd still be flooded now. in short Noah is one of the easiest bible stories to disprove... never mind it was stolen from an earlier religious group, and modified to fit the bible....

      Bloodbane - 2011-05-20 12:11

      sorry forgot to add, there are 30 000 000 species of animals on earth now, if only 7000 where saved and there is no evolution where did the rest come from?

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-20 13:06

      Just to expand on bloods statement, the actual event that changed the Sahara into a desert was a seismic event in the Rift vally in Africa which cause the course of the Nile to change from it's origional course, lenthwise through north africa (where the Sahara is) to the north towards egypt, causing the entire region to desertify. Sattelite pictures of what appear to be an old but an incredibly large river with tributaries are easily obtainable on the internet.

      Matt - 2011-05-20 13:13

      @ Bloodbane: depends what wood is used. They used gopher wood, with pitch (tar) to seal it and make it strong (they used to do this with galleons too btw). Amount of water - one fallacy is that there wasn't enough water, another is that it couldn't cover the world as it would also boil everything due to pressure. You're assuming current-world conditions. The Bible tells of "waters in the deep" which broke open and water gushed out. Faultlines, hmm... As for inbreeding of animals - again you assume today's circumstances. Don't you think that if the flood happened only 1600 years after creation (going by lineage dates), the gene pool would be far stronger and purer? Also, look at the chromosomes. A human has 4000 defective genes. But if you mate with another human who's not related, their 4000 defective genes won't be in the same spot, so the child is fine, even with mixed race/colour. Within 1st cousin, the defective genes are in the same spot -> deformations. As for 30 million species, that sounds possible - but I spoke of kinds. A kind and a specie are 2 different things. A chihuahua is a specie, a great dane is a specie, but both are a kind of canine. As for the wall, I doubt it's 11000 years old but it still wouldn't prove 4 billion years of existence. Also make sure the dating was correct. They also say there are 12000 year old trees, or ice rings showing 100,000 years, but again that critical word is "assumption". Rings are assumed to be annual when they are not.

      Skaapwagter - 2011-05-20 13:15

      @Matt, you are making my day. You are funnier than Malema...although just by a small margin. Please tell me that you are kidding around because if not, I am very sorry for you. are bugs not a form of life? Come on...and you say bugs live fine in water! Idiot! Have you ever seen a ant drown? What about worms etc? Do you know that 2 of a kind is not nearly enough to keep a species from extinction? Probably not. Also, you say there was only 2 of a kind. So where does all the species come from? Please post a reference to your laughable fact that the oldest dessert is just 4450 years old. This is the best joke of the lot! You are a real clown today! Whahahahahah!

      Slayer - 2011-05-20 13:19

      @Matt Again... Your source? The complex of coral reefs is approximately 500 thousand years old with the new growth of reef over 8000...

      Matt - 2011-05-20 14:18

      @ Skaapwagter - an "I'm smart, you're dumb" attitude doesn't cover up idiocy. Are you saying insects do not breathe through their skin? I was asked about insects on the ark and I said that according to the Bible, those on the ark "breathed life through their nostrils" and that excludes insects. Oh, btw, a worm breathes through its skin too (invertabrate) and has to stay moist in order to survive. Insects survive fine in water, what's the first thing you see after a flood-hit area has its waters subside? Exactly. So 8000 kinds cannot breed and form loads of species? Call me dumb if you wish, but your theory teaches that all those species came from a rock. Do you honestly think anyone of intelligence would honestly believe that we came from a rock?! Or if you debate that, the primordial soup. Then you believe Koo is your creator. Don't attack me, go read up on the theories of the existence of earth to get some fancy words if you wish, but that is what you believe. So which Rocky are you... Source - well I learned it as I went along but I see there are various sites for both the Sahara and Great Barrier Reef if you do a simple search.

      Matt - 2011-05-20 14:45

      To add to the species thing. Jacob Zuma can have like 20 kids in how many years - there are those who have 20 kids all under 20 (Minnesota, where it's cold). That's humans - normally 1 pregnancy/child a year max (excluding twins! 40 weeks pregnancy + a few weeks to recover). Many animals can give birth to whole litters in one go. I know someone with a dog that must've produced at least 15 pups in the past year - pups look very different from each other. So, if there are 30-million species (but still 8000 original kinds), I'm pretty sure that can happen within some 4400 years. Actually, come to mention it, how do you stand on evolution/old-earth vs population growth? Just asking because today we have 6 billion people, 200 years ago there were 1 billion people, and drawing the curve further back (now one guesses), it's quite possible to have 8 people from the boat 4450 years ago. Whereas, if I'm wrong and YOU are right about the evolution of kinds/humans and the age of everything, today we should have 150,000 humans per square inch. I know JHB CBD can be busy, but not THAT bad!

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-05-20 10:43

    Saturday, hmmm,doesn't work for me... Can't he make a few phone calls & push it to a later date, maybe sometime in August... Should I pack a lunch ?

  • freddie van eyk - 2011-05-20 10:44

    Shame man , your psychologist will see you again on Monday.

  • NgoakoM - 2011-05-20 10:46

    The Day and Hour Unknown Matthew 24:36-44 36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. 42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

      daboss247365 - 2011-05-20 11:33

      If I disagee with the readings from the bible, then may I say this comment offends me & I want it removed or censored? (My Comment here is in response to a comment by some Dubya guy to my comment above about virgin births)

  • NgoakoM - 2011-05-20 10:47

    The Day and Hour Unknown Matthew 24:36-44 36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. 42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

  • John - 2011-05-20 10:49

    cant happen i have next weeks weather forecast.

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-20 13:07


  • Chantel - 2011-05-20 10:50

    this dude is 89 years of age!!!! he probably sees his own fate ending tomorrow and is out to put the world on a spin cause he knows he is going die!!!!

      smashly - 2011-05-20 11:18

      he probably has dementia, lol!

  • Batgirl30 - 2011-05-20 10:50

    I honestly wish the world would come to an end very soon. I'm at peace with myself.

      Barry M - 2011-05-20 10:56

      Speak for yourself Sunshine - I still want to see my kids have kids of their own!

  • rimmoah - 2011-05-20 10:50

    i bought tickets for pirates of the caribbean 3d at 8-30pm,so hopefully the apocalypse starts after the movie finishes

  • Emile - 2011-05-20 10:51

    i will bet you 50 bucks that rapture will happen tommorow

      daboss247365 - 2011-05-20 11:34

      I'm in. :) 50 against

  • Sum1 - 2011-05-20 10:52

    Cannot be! My canned food only expires in 2013!!

  • Liz23 - 2011-05-20 10:53

    OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is this guy stupid or something?! Who does he think he is?!

  • Barry M - 2011-05-20 10:55

    I can understand that the man is a complete and utter fruitcake - but that people actually beleive and buy into these rantings???? Anyway - come tomorrow I will light up my braai fire and drink a toast to this idiot.

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-05-20 10:55

    Hopefully this only affects Christians....

      Matt - 2011-05-20 11:19

      Yup, rapture comes, Christians are relieved of the world by rapture, and the rest are left with the ANC...

  • colin - 2011-05-20 10:57

    Damn! Why does it have to be on a Saturday? Why not a Monday? I've got a funny feeling we'll all still be here on Sunday.

  • J-Dawg - 2011-05-20 10:58

    I was wondering what to do this weekend and his plans sound quite entertaining but I'll stick to my river rafting adventure with my girlfriend this weekend

  • poenskop - 2011-05-20 10:58

    must be anc supporters behind this!!! ;)

  • Jedi knight - 2011-05-20 11:00

    If some "believers" commit suicide, will he be held responsible!!!! Just a question? May the force be with you........

  • Matt - 2011-05-20 11:00

    Can we postpone the end of the world till after Sunday please, I want to know who gets relegated in the Premier League...

  • haynes.sp - 2011-05-20 11:01

    I'm looking for an 'End of the World Party' for Saturday night (SA time) since Mr Camping says the world will end on Saturday (USA time). So luckily in SA we will have a couple of hours still to jol before it all goes pear-shaped.

  • michaelp1 - 2011-05-20 11:02

    This is a typical example of what man does in the name of religion! Of course, all the darwinians (note NO capital 'd')and relativists (atheists), have a field day and say ....blah...blah...blah!! I am so grateful that I have someone to thank and something to look forward to. The world must be such a bleak place if you are an atheist!! Ah, but as Lewis says,.."consequently atheism turns out to be too simple.."

      Matt - 2011-05-20 11:22

      Amen Michaelp1. I was an atheist before and gosh was it lonely... what's your point on earth if you're going to be no more than worm food, and why try to be good when everyone disappoints you anyway, you just live for material things which NEVER satisfy (he who loveth silver shall not be satisfied with silver) - then came Jesus - and wow what a change! Loving life and loving God with passion, and looking forward to when I'll be with Him.

      michaelp1 - 2011-05-20 11:38

      I AM HAPPY being laughed at by darwinians and relativists, because "...regardless of one's education, it is impossible to decide whether Christianity is true if you don't know what it is about". "THE MIRACLES ARE, IN FACT, A RETELLING, IN SMALL LETTERS, OF THE VERY SAME STORY WHICH IS WRITTEN ACROSS THE WHOLE WORLD IN LETTERS TOO BIG FOR SOME OF US TO SEE".

      Bloodbane - 2011-05-20 12:18

      I feel far happier knowing that once I'm dead that's it..there no eternal anything, just peacefull oblivion

      Matt - 2011-05-20 12:30

      @ Michaelp1 - it's not nice to receive "thumbs down" from them, but honestly, let them. You will find that atheists will "squash a gnat" with any little detail or answer you give them, but will believe their evolution and no-god without ever questioning it.

      Matt - 2011-05-20 12:30

      Michaelp1 - if you have FB -

      iamasouthafr - 2011-05-20 12:35

      My house is my Church, my wife is my God and my children are my universe! If I am judged for that because of things I cannot understand - well so be it! Religion is the cause of so many wars. I am not saying there is no higher power but I have every right to question it. Until I am standing in front of this "Being" with questions I need answered I will continue to have doubts. Oh - and I live a wonderful happy life and when my day comes I will die with a smile on my face and say sh$t what an awesome life I lived! I contribute to many charities and general I try do good to all I meet. If I am judged for that - well so be it.

      michaelp1 - 2011-05-20 12:54

      @imasouthafr Religion is NOT the cause of the wars - it is what MAN does in the name of religion. It open minded of you to say you have every right to question whether there is a 'higher power' or not. Remember though - 'to get the right answers you must first ask the right questions.' To start off read Mere Christianity (Lewis) and The God Delusion and you can at least say you did some research. For me Dawkins is a joke (the fact that he is a Prof makes it worse). He bears witness to my quote .."regardless of one's education..etc"

      Matt - 2011-05-20 13:20

      @ Iamsouthafr - fact. If you added up all the wars in history caused by all religions in existence, you still wouldn't come close to the amount of death caused by the belief in no God. Stalin killed some 60-million people - he was an atheist and was merely following the evolution theory more literal than most. Hitler hated religion and believed in evolution - blacks were deemed "mostly ape" and Jews "near pure ape", he had us all charted out - some 100 million died in WW2. Pol Pot, a mad atheist/evolutionist, wiped out a third of his population (Cambodia). Mao Tse Tung, founder of the atheist, communist state of China, killed some 60-million in the process of founding China. See, some people kill each other for religious differences, and they're so wrong... but when you believe there is no God to answer to, and avidly read and believe a theory that says you're just a bunch of chemicals and you're nothing but an organism, well mass murder just becomes very easy for some tyrants doesn't it...

      aname - 2011-05-20 19:16

      Matt you do not seem to be very well read at all. Read Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler and you will realise that he was not an atheist by any means. and neither Pol Pot nor Stalin killed anyone because of their religious beliefs. It was all about political power. Once again a little bit of reading will make this obvious.

  • cromagnon - 2011-05-20 11:02

    Dont know about you but I have just loaned R100 000 from the bank, and will spend it tonight, pre - doomsday. Anybody joining me?

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-20 13:09

      Only if you get a herd of hookers.