Russia: West firing up Syrian opposition

2012-08-22 22:15

Moscow - Russia says Western powers are "openly instigating" Syrian opposition groups to take up arms in their fight to unseat President Bashar Assad.

Moscow has been Syria's key protector throughout the 17-month uprising that evolved into a full-blown civil war, shielding Assad's regime from international sanctions and providing it with weapons despite an international outcry.

Russia's Foreign Ministry claimed on Wednesday that the West "has done nothing" to urge Assad's opponents to start a dialogue with his government. It claimed that the "pharisaical" Western approach to the Syrian civil war does not help resolve the conflict that has killed an estimated 19 000 people.

The Kremlin, backed by fellow veto-wielding UN Security Council member China, has blocked any plans that would call on Assad to step down.

  • fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 07:16

    Um, what do you expect when you're arming the unelected dictator of the country who's been killing, detaining, torturing and raping tens of thousands of Syrians who want to vote in free and fair elections. Hello! To Putin and Lavrov, this is all a mystery. They themselves rig elections, in ex-KGB and neo-Communist fashion and call that democracy. They don't understand what the Syrian people want. It's foreign to them.

      DSBennie - 2012-08-23 07:28

      Well seeing that Putin was a member of the KGB, so what else can we expect from him? Despicable government those Russians have, the world may not do anything about Syria, but they can invade an occupy large sections of Georgia???

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 07:47

      Seeing that Panetta was a director of the CIA, so what else can we expect from him?

      Shane Loxton - 2012-08-23 07:58

      if one looks deep enough in the US government one will find the same amount of corruption people linked to boards, chairmanships, etc even the FDA has links in Big Pharmaceutical companies they are meant to be impartial with, every government is corrupt its just that some are better at hidding it than otheres

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 08:13

      Seeing as Fidel believes Nelson Mandela is a phony, a lackey of the West, a modern-day Uncle Tom (his words in the US/Mandela thread), what else can we expect from him?

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 08:14

      Shane, what does that have to do with helping Syrians free themselves from decades of brutal oppression at the hands of the unelected Assad family?

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 08:16

      Seeing that fred is a paid shill that posts the same rubbish on thread after thread, so what can we expect from him/her/it?

      rick.kabose - 2012-08-23 08:31

      Fred , you presuming that fidel is a male.I'm guessing a female,she's rather intelligent.Lot's of time to read and learn about the world while her patriarch is out earning the bread. Russia,China,RSA,Syria,Persia.....all one party state's effectively due to their rulers wielding a gun or possessing the ability to brainwash their moronic simpleton populations. Stuff them.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 08:41

      @Rick It is quite naive to think 1.3 billion Chinese are easily fooled as you are by a party or two with its organisations at all levels or millitary or police that western countries chiefly resort to.

      rick.kabose - 2012-08-23 08:49

      Fidel - the chinese are not simpletons,there the commie's use the gun to wield power

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 08:50

      FIdel, you said those words. For South Africans they're very important. You said Nelson Mandela is phony, a lackey of the West, a modern-day Uncle Tom. No-one made you say them, and you haven't retracted them.

      Shane Loxton - 2012-08-23 11:13

      @Fred, you brought up the point by referring to corrupt government and Putin the KGB and that was my responce so thats what that has to do with it,

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 14:51

      Bringing up corruption in governments is a distraction to the focus of the discussion, which is Russia's arming of Assad and the use of those arms by Assad to slaughter unarmed Syrians and their families.

  • AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-08-23 07:31

    The West says Russia is "openly instigating" the Syrian dictatorship to take up arms in their fight to keep that assad terorist in power !!.

  • fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 07:48

    Regime change is what "THEY" wanted from day one!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 08:15

      This is coming from someone who believes Nelson Mandela is a fake and the neo-Soviet Russian regime led by the ex-KGB officer Putin is going to bring democracy to the Middle East. His words. That's no joke. Imagine that.

      rick.kabose - 2012-08-23 08:38

      Yes.It will benefit the Syrians in the long run too,but Iran is the boogeyman we want to fall, and they will.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 08:46

      Many have tried Rick, in the thousand years of Persian civilisation, but the Persians are still here! However I admire you honesty when debating geo politics, instead of the tired old argument about spreading democracy and human rights.

      rick.kabose - 2012-08-23 09:08

      Democracy and human rights are a bonus benefit in the game of world domination. Democracy will always trump over other forms of government in the end.Just the best form of gov yet,though imperfect.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 09:17

      Fidel's perspective filters through a highly immature and delusional anti-West paradigm. Hell, to him even Nelson Mandela is a phony, a lackey of the West. Through that paradigm, how much truth can there be. Little to none.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 09:19

      Unfortunately democracy is a fantasy. Fascism ( power vested in industry) or Communism (power vested in government) are the only two options. Power flows from a unified structure in control of money and weapons. In Britain and the US people trully believe they have a democracy while in reality they have same ol', same ol' parties to choose from who juggle the power every few years but represent same big money interests. Democracy sounds good on paper, but it's not realistic. War and occupation can never be reconciled with the principles of democracy. The trappings of democracy do not make a nation democratic. Only transparently revealed truth and honesty do.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-08-23 09:40

      It seems Mgoqi is some kind of a political juvenile deliquent.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 10:03

      @kress Back to your supercilious one-liners? Go ahead, do share your wisdom with the community, and lets see how smart you are.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 10:08

      Think about it: Fidel comes onto a South African website and says to South Africans that Nelson Mandela is a phony. Imagine the arrogance that goes into doing something like that. It's almost unimaginable.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-08-23 10:31

      Mgoqi I just am not into endless polemic tirades. I am able to sum up most things in one sentence. And besides I heard most of your inane arguments already. So there is nothing new.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 11:17

      You're a coward who's unwilling to push beyond your limitations, and you attempt to bring everyone down to your silly and hateful level. Dialogue is obviously an alien concept to you. And what's truly pathetic about your unbridled invective is the complete absence of any logic whatsoever. Your level of intellect is more suited to tabloid forums, so please scuttle on over there.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-08-23 11:52

      Mgoqi quite obviously you are not good enough to get at me that is why you are resorting to personal insults. Trying to bait me does not work.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 12:00

      I am not insulting you but telling you what you are as evidenced by your posts. You on the other hand never passes the opportunity to throw insults, ignoring every time what is being discussed by resorting to personal insults................................every time.

  • shane.loxton - 2012-08-23 07:52

    Syria and Iran are, in a way, the first dominos in a long chain of terrible events. This chain, as chaotic as it seems, leads to only one end result: Third world status for almost every country on the planet, including the U.S., leaving the financial institutions, like monetary grim reapers, to swoop in and gather up the pieces that remain to be fashioned into a kind of Frankenstein economy. A fiscal golem. A global monstrosity that removes all sovereignty whether real or imagined and centralizes the decision making processes of humanity into the hands of a morally bankrupt few.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 08:17

      Very dark, and thankfully wrong.

  • diana.gill.18 - 2012-08-23 09:26

    You think why US are pursuing the idea of military intervention on Syrian soil to end with Assad's regime? Themselves and Israel want to destroy one of the strongest allies of Iran so they can have an opened platform for the further actions. They would die for doing the same thing to Russia but got no teeth to perform it in a way they doing it in the Middle East. So they exercising sneaky methods how to bring russians down in the eyes of international community.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 09:34

      Why would you not want two of the most oppressive and dishonest regimes left in the world not to end. That's the mystery. Did you support the Apartheid regime too?

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 09:36

      As to "bringing the Russians down", you're confusing the election-rigging Russian regime led by the ex-KGB officer Putin with the Russian people. Largely two different things. It is Putin and his neo-Communist henchmen who are bringing the Russians down.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-08-23 09:36

      Spot on Gill, which is why Iran is the main target. If the west can get to Iran, they then control some of the world's largest gas and oil reserves. This stops the west's reliance on Russian gas and this squeezes Russia financially and makes it weak economically. This has another geo political effect of ensuring that China gets her energy needs for development under western terms, as they would then be in control of the world's energy resources, and be able to dictate China's pace of development.

      diana.gill.18 - 2012-08-23 09:50

      PUUUUKE!!! Fred is speaking of apartheid!!!! If to be serious go troll someone else or at least try to find several fresh ideas to post.

      diana.gill.18 - 2012-08-23 09:52

      @fidel: truly was said in the old times of Persian kingdom: rivers of human blood will be shed for the sake of that black blood of earth.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-08-23 09:53

      Diana, you have the same mindset as someone who believes Nelson Mandela is a fake. Hello!

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