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Russia accuses US of arming Syria rebels

2012-10-25 19:33

Moscow - Russia on Thursday accused Washington of "co-ordinating" deliveries of arms to Syrian rebels, despite assurances by the State Department that the United States provides no lethal assistance.

"Washington is aware of the deliveries of various weapons to illegal armed groups active in Syria. Moreover, judging by the declarations of US officials published in US media, the US co-ordinates and provides logistical assistance in such deliveries," the foreign ministry said in a statement.

Russia's top general Nikolai Makarov on Wednesday said rebels fighting against Bashar Assad's army in Syria are using US-made Stingers, a type of shoulder-launched missile systems also known as MANPADs.

State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland promptly denied that the US is delivering any such, or any other, weapons to the rebels.

"We are providing no lethal assistance to the Syrians," she said, adding that the only MANPADs sighted by the US in Syria were "Soviet vintage".

In its statement, the Russian foreign ministry acknowledged that "the US does not deliver MANPADs to the rebels" directly, and did not specify how the alleged logistical assistance is carried out.

Makarov said Russia did not yet know who was bringing the Stingers into Syria, adding it was possible that these and other weapons could have been delivered from abroad on several means of transport, including passenger planes.

"For this, all kinds of transport could be activated, including civil aviation. This is a serious matter," he said.

Russia is under sustained pressure from the West, Turkey and Assad's foes in the Arab world to cut its military cooperation with the Syrian regime.

President Vladimir Putin last week defended Russia's right to trade weapons with whoever it wanted, so long as sales did not break any sanctions from the UN Security Council where Moscow has a permanent, veto-wielding seat.

"In all other cases, no one can on any pretext dictate to Russia or any other state with whom and how it should trade," Putin said.

Moscow has refused to take sides against Assad, condemning the West and Turkey for making clear their support for the rebels battling his regime.

Comments
  • fidel.mgoqi - 2012-10-25 19:44

    Americans are masters in double speak, and the rest of the world is playing catch up. Give us just a little more time and we will, after a little practice, become quite good at it. Then the seams will not show in the stitching, seamless so to speak. Then, we will be just like them. They've even coined a term for it called "Plausible Deniability"! Speaking with a forked tongue, is the very flaw that is at the heart of American failure. One cannot proclaim “liberty and justice for all”, then act in ways diametrically opposed to the claim and expect that no one will notice the discrepancy.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-10-25 20:22

      American failure? Compared to what?

      Oraniaboer - 2012-10-25 20:47

      Fidel effof back to Cuba. You havent got a clue about US politics and inner government workings. Have you ever been to the US. ITS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE IN VERY SAFE INDEED.

      anneck.cranke - 2012-10-25 23:13

      Fidel, you are a master serpent yourself. And yet you don't even know what you are saying! You are a waste.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-25 23:19

      Well, if not speaking with a forked tongue means openly believing Nelson Mandela is a phony, a lackey of the West, a modern-day Uncle Tom (your exact words), I'm not sure which is worse.

      Shane Loxton - 2012-10-26 07:22

      Fred and the scratched Record again of Saint Mandela

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-10-26 07:26

      @Larry US foreign policy is a failure. The US is so morally screwed-up, especially in its foreign policy, that, it can make war and hypocrisy appear virtuous. @Delusion I for one can understand why people are trying to draw equivalence between Russia as a commercial arms supplier doing business with a long established customer and the covert supply of arms to a insurgency for that seeks to overthrow a state player. There is nothing, no law, no sanction nor business justification preventing Russia from doing what it is contractually bound to do and in deed they are well entitle to sail in to the Port of Latakia and unload whatever they choose. To pose a question, if Turkey finds itself in conflict with Syria does anyone really expect that all their international arms suppliers are going to stop supplying them, the US specifically. There is no equivalence in the circumstances despite how much individually it distresses you. The U.S. sells Turkey billions of dollars worth of fighters jets and attack helicopters. You know what Turkey uses them for? To pound Kurdish rebels and civilians into the dust in northern Iraq. @Boer Are you going to fund my relocation to Cuba? @Anneck Clod, clear, incisive logic! You lot are pathetic!

      Shane Loxton - 2012-10-26 07:28

      Orania, i stay in the US in Savannah yes its safe if u like living in a police state and having attacks against your constitutional right daily. Since 911 and the formation of DHS, TSA, FEMA and others more and more of our freedoms are taken away with each presidential order.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-26 07:53

      Shane, does this mean you agree with Fidel that Nelson Mandela is a phony, a lackey of the West, a modern-day Uncle Tom?

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-26 07:56

      Fidel, clearly it comes as a surprise to you that it is completely morally wrong for Russia to arm the unelected dictator of Syria, who is literally butchering Syrians and their families in their homes in a futile attempt to hold onto unelected power. And again, exactly where is Russia going to be sued if it breaches its immoral arms-supply contract with the unelected dictator Bashar Assad and his brother?

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-10-26 08:17

      An ethical foreign policy in a world governed by self interest is an oxymoron.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-26 08:19

      Well, that's your morally bankrupt belief. You're not doing anything to promote one. Why?

      Shane Loxton - 2012-10-26 08:28

      Fred I know the way our government works and I would not put it past them there are many examples of how dirty our government hands have been in the past and present, starting even before the bay of pigs. Mandela is not the saint and hero u make out to be and many people in the think the same. Even your own TRC stated that more blacks were killed by the ANC that the government forces during apartheid. Yes I personally dont like the man.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-26 08:48

      Please point out where I say or "make out" that Nelson Mandela is a saint? Sad that you don't like him. You're one of the very few on the entire planet. He's obviously likable. Hard not to like, in fact.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-10-27 19:41

      Shame, You are NOT an American and you do NOT live in the USA. You are a MASTER BULLSH.TTER !!!!!!!!

  • Sibusiso - 2012-10-25 19:46

    So the US supports the Al Qaeda infiltrated rebels? That's weird

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-25 23:20

      It is supporting the rebels, not Al-Quaida, obviously, and only marginally.

      richard.bosmano - 2012-10-26 08:55

      aprox 10% of the rebels are maybe al qaeda.The rest are former gov troops that are fed up

  • Sibusiso - 2012-10-25 19:49

    I wonder how long it will take these freedom fighters to take aim at a US civilian airplane, with their american made MANPADs.

  • ali.asgar.58323 - 2012-10-25 21:09

    This comes as no surprise. America has supported almost every terrorist movement to further 'american interests'. Its failures in Iraq and Afghanistan has crippled it financially and I think she is now looking for a way out of the mess she has created for herself. She might even consider abandoning her 'illegitimate child,' 'Israel' to survive the next decade.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-25 23:04

      Talk about being upside down. What a ridiculous statement.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-25 23:09

      The real question is whether you're going to wake up in time, or be left behind by events.

  • rocketman999 - 2012-10-25 21:21

    No surprise here, the US (like many other countries) will support factions or agents of war in various conflict zones that will benefit their global or regional security. Do you think the US did not support UNITA during the Angolan war? Even though they directly denied it, it was a fact - and so you can be guaranteed that Russia is doing the same, supplying Syria. It's just a mess, a race to see how quickly we can destroy our own human race while at the same time building an arms industry that is dependent on WAR. No WAR, no jobs, it's as simple as that.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-25 23:11

      I agree with you up to a point, but there's the US Constitution which you should factor into your thinking. It forms the overriding intentions and desires of that country.

  • fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-25 23:17

    A sure sign of weak leadership in the freer world: the neo-Soviet, election-slanting, opposition-imprisoning Putin regime tells the US off for arming the Syrian people liberating themselves from decades of brutal unelected dictatorship, while it itself continues to arm that dictator who is literally butchering Syrians and their families to hold onto unelected power.

      jobe.mkhatywa - 2012-10-26 08:54

      Fred were there any WMD's found in Iraq?

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-10-26 11:11

      @jobe- 2006 they found blister agent scudheads , munitions found contain sarin and mustard gases which are considered WMD's but not indicating a active weapons progam and likely produced well before the invasion. In 2008, american military shipped out of Iraq on 37 flights in 3,500 barrels, 550 metric tons of the supposedly nonexistent yellowcake .(depending if you want to consider that wmd) . Its also confirmed that Sadddam did intend to restart his programs after sanctions had been nullified which he had in some degree by the corrupted 'oil for food' program with the UN. Also no-one knows where the existing WMD's really are (from the gulf war) since the assumption is they were destroyed by the regime on their own and not by UN/IAEA inspection as was required by the gulf war agreement, there is also strong evidence that weapons were moved prior to invasion to Syria which we do know has WMD's as well as the fact the arrest and public confession of Pakistani nuclear weapons scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan in 2004 confirmed the existence of a global clandestine nuclear proliferation network which had, over almost two decades, provided nuclear technology, expertise, and designs to Iran, North Korea, Libya and probably Iraq although the Pakistani govt/military deny this and will not let any international interview him . So depends on what your criteria is .

      ali.asgar.58323 - 2012-10-26 11:35

      There you go again Freddie. Still spooting zionists propaganda. You are pretending to care about the Syrian people in order to deflect attention away from the zionist crimes being perpetrated on a daily basis. 4.7 million palestinians classified as refugees by the united nations. Continuous destruction of palestinian olive groves and property by zionist settlers. Daily illegal arrests and incarcerations without trial or due process. Bulldozing of palestinian homes on occupied land. Incarceration of palestinian children. Illegal siege of Gaza leading to deaths due to malnutrition and lack of medical supplies. Continuous illegal settlement building etc.etc.etc. So dear freddie its gonna take a lot more than the syrian crisis to deflect attention away from that LOT. And how longer do you think uncle Sam will be able to foot the bill for your crimes? It is you that needs waking up.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-26 15:36

      Jobe, yes. Did you miss it? The new Iraqi government destroyed them quite recently. Plus Saddam Hussein gassed to death tens of thousands of Iraqi Kurds with their families, as well as tens of thousands of Iranians in his war against that country which claimed the lives of 1,000,000 Iranians. The low estimate of the number of unidentified bodies in unmarked graves from his tenure: 500,000.

      tom.guy.37669528 - 2012-10-26 16:28

      Who gave them to Saddam ninjas? Oh it was America, makes sense huh. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-153210/Rumsfeld-helped-Iraq-chemical-weapons.html

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-10-26 17:02

      Brazil secretly aided the Iraqi nuclear weapon program by supplying natural uranium dioxide between 1981 and 1982 without notifying the IAEA. About 100 tons of mustard gas also came from Brazil. An Austrian company gave Iraq calutrons for enriching uranium. The nation also provided heat exchangers, tanks, condensers, and columns for the Iraqi chemical weapons infrastructure, which can hardly be said to be for energy. Singapore gave 4,515 tons of precursors for VX, sarin, tabun, and mustard gases to Iraq. The Dutch gave 4,261 tons of precursors for sarin, tabun, mustard, and tear gases to Iraq. Egypt gave 2,400 tons of tabun and sarin precursors to Iraq and 28,500 tons of weapons designed for carrying chemical munitions. India gave 2,343 tons of precursors to VX, tabun, Sarin, and mustard gases. Luxembourg gave Iraq 650 tons of mustard gas precursors. Spain gave Iraq 57,500 munitions designed for carrying chemical weapons. In addition, they provided reactors, condensers, columns and tanks for Iraq’s chemical warfare program, 4.4% of the international sales. China provided 45,000 munitions designed for chemical warfare. Portugal provided yellowcake between 1980 and 1982. Niger provided yellowcake in 1981.

      allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-10-26 17:02

      The United States exported support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq war over $500 million worth of dual use exports to Iraq that were approved by the Commerce department. Among them were advanced computers, some of which were used in Iraq's nuclear program. The non-profit American Type Culture Collection and the Centers for Disease Control sold or sent biological samples of anthrax, West Nile virus and botulism to Iraq up until 1989, which Iraq claimed it needed for medical research. A number of these materials were used for Iraq's biological weapons research program, while others were used for vaccine development. For example, the Iraqi military settled on the American Type Culture Collection strain 14578 as the exclusive anthrax strain for use as a biological weapon, according to Charles Duelfer

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-28 02:56

      Tom, clearly you're not aware the Daily Mail is a tabloid.

  • fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-26 01:35

    News24, can something be done about the popup, flagging related stories? On a handheld device, it's annoying, gets in the way, is not easy to turn off. It is definitely not helpful.

  • ali.asgar.58323 - 2012-10-26 06:13

    It is as if I can see a repetition of the Vietnam war. The last american helicopter departing from the rooftop of the american embassy in Tel Aviv. Another failed american outpost. Unable to continue fighting zionist wars. Unable to foot the bill for the occupation resulting in the return of 4.7 million Palestinian refugees. Collapse of the last Apartheid state. No more terror in the middle east. America begging for negotiations for the peaceful dismantle of what's left of the illegitimate state they use to call 'israel'

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-26 07:59

      Collapse of your last remaining brain cell, rather. No more terror in the Middle East. Yeah right. What are your Muslim terrorists doing in Mali then? 100 million Muslims of the Middle East have seen through the lies you're still holding onto. It's up to you whether you wake up, or get left behind.

  • allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-10-26 08:00

    No one notice that Putin just made the case for the US even if it was supplying whole ship worths of arms to the rebels?One would think a a bit of modesty on Russia's part considering ,like in nearly every conflict across the globe , the battle field is littered with their weapons . Sure as hell not M16's these guys carry. But i suppose we'll all jump on the US on the general's comments , not the foreign affairs minister. I suppose its what its all about these days , govts turning the attention on the US while they (in Russia's case) bully , threaten and attack neighbours like Georgia or Ukraine. Threaten their public with turning their gas off in the dead of winter ect.

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