Shooting at US temple: Many wounded

2012-08-05 19:53

Chicago - Up to 30 people were wounded on Sunday during a shooting at a Sikh temple in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where two shooters could still be inside holding children as hostages, local media reports said.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel pointed to reports that the head priest of the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek was locked inside a restroom with a cellphone.

It said about 50 people were at another temple in nearby Brookfield for a morning service and many went outside after learning of the shooting in Oak Creek.

The president of the temple was among those shot, according to the newspaper, adding that Federal Bureau of Investigation agents were among the law enforcement officers who had responded at the scene.

A police dispatcher earlier told AFP that several people had been shot, but could not confirm how many people were injured or whether any one had been killed.

  • kevin.pitzer - 2012-08-05 19:58

    Shooting Natal 5 killed and 17 wounded....although this article is not well lets keep care close to home.

      michele.holmes.1238 - 2012-08-05 20:24

      What happened? In NATAL?

      kevin.pitzer - 2012-08-05 20:28

      It seems that a a few are not well and destined to to believe .Well it seems others support murder.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-08-05 20:48

      @michele -

      michele.holmes.1238 - 2012-08-05 20:58

      Thanks Lacrimose

  • yuu.mee.351 - 2012-08-05 19:59

    Thank God I live in Durban and I've never been exposed to gun shots

      michael.i.wright - 2012-08-05 20:18

      Watch this space.

      michele.holmes.1238 - 2012-08-05 20:57

  • yuu.mee.351 - 2012-08-05 20:01

    Where is Natal? You apartheid product

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-08-05 20:05

      I believe it's near Kwa-Zulu

      boltonbarry - 2012-08-05 20:16

      Really Yuu ????

      Johan De Beer - 2012-08-05 20:17

      Oh please. Why now say something like this?

      marleze.baartman - 2012-08-05 20:38

      Yuu me, psyco just like the shooters in the article.

      pisciotta - 2012-08-05 20:38

      Yuu.Mee Natal is too many miles west of Hong Kong for you to be out alone. Does your mother know you are so far from home?

      johan.peters3 - 2012-08-05 20:54

      thats so uncalled for, if you really want to know ill tel you....its more about crime , don't you think?

  • sakhi.TheNextKent.dlala - 2012-08-05 20:24

    country of lunatics

      pisciotta - 2012-08-05 20:45

      Bad news is that Wisconsin is one of the States that does not have the death penality (abolished in 1853). Others include: Alaska, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois,Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York,North Dakota, Rhode Island, Vermont, West Virginia, Dist. of Columbia

      pisciotta - 2012-08-05 20:47

      Sakhi - mass murder in SA is more difficult. Hard to get a crowd to stand still why you hack them to death with an machette.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-08-05 20:47

      As if our society is more sane!

  • rbphiri - 2012-08-05 20:26

    First it was the Columbine High School massacre, next the Colorado Shootings and now it's the shooting incident at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek. There is serious loopholes in America's gun laws, plus the Batman gunman James Eagan Holmes purchased guns and ammo legally. In the 2008 Supreme Court case District of Columbia v. Heller the court ruled that the Constitution protects an individual’s right to own a gun for personal use. But the 5-4 decision only applied to federal laws and failed to address local and state laws. Thus, in July 2010 the Supreme Court ruled that the federal right to bear arms also applies at the state and local level. The ruling lifted a nearly 30-year-old Chicago gun ban. The National Rifle Association called the ruling a landmark, but the decision did not specify what kind of gun laws can be applied to the Second Amendment.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-08-05 21:18

      Well, every society - regardless of it's 'worldliness' - seems to be experiencing serious mental breakdowns. The *consequences* are many and probably also diverse, depending on where you live and what you are required to believe in. Gun laws there, road laws here, religious laws somewhere else. The underlying is an increasing mental meltdown, regardless of where one lives.

  • wanda.novukela - 2012-08-05 20:28

    What is wrong with these Americans?

      barry.mcbride - 2012-08-05 20:35

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-08-05 20:44

      @wanda - well now, 30 people are killed or maimed every week on South African roads. We prefer to use taxis, trucks and buses, 'these Americans' prefer to use guns.

      pisciotta - 2012-08-05 20:57

      Wanda - If I'm going to be murdered I'd rather it be a shot to my head than being hacked to pieces with a dull machette.

      michele.holmes.1238 - 2012-08-05 21:00

      Wanda, they are sane compared t the murders we face everyday.

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-05 21:04

      It's the ease at wich every loonatick and his buddy can get hold of guns and automatic rifles in America. There are literally more guns in America than people. They will have to enforce much strickter gun control if they want to put an end to these mass killings.

      michele.holmes.1238 - 2012-08-05 21:06

      @ devon, does it help here? more people are killed here in one week by criminals wielding illegal firearms than a year's worth of legal firearms in the US.

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-05 21:12

      Well I am not denying the fact that we have a big problem as well

      pisciotta - 2012-08-05 21:16

      Wanda - if Americans really understood how unsafe SA truly is today, they would never visit - then there goes part of your tourism. Consider if Americans called for sanctions against SA until it proves it is worthy of Democracy? Never think SA is more safe than the USA. Not until you come live here for a while. Then decide if you would want to return to your life behind your high walls and wires. Even with all of that - you are not safe.

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-05 21:20

      Well I have a lot of dealings with Americans, and quite often they would express an interest in visiting SA, but they always ask about the crime, they say they heard that SA is a beautifull country, but it's not safe, especially Johannesburg

      pisciotta - 2012-08-05 21:27

      Devon -SA is a beautiful country. But most of SA (especially JHB) is a "Prison" by American standards. My SA wife was dumbfounded to see homes without walls. She remarked "you can walk from the sidewalk on the path up to their front door without ringing a bell!?" Yes. We use fences to keep animals in, not to keep animals out. I own houses in both countries. I pay more for security in SA than I do for my home in America which is in a major city.

  • pisciotta - 2012-08-05 20:56

    One gunman put down by police. Immediate report 6 killed including gunman. 13:55 CST USA

      michele.holmes.1238 - 2012-08-05 21:02

      How many of the KZN gunmen were out down by the SAPS?

      pisciotta - 2012-08-05 21:22

      Michele - I was reminding my SA wife that here in America we do not have a "National Police" - every community has their own police force. At first she thought it was "too much" - then I reminded her that every community can vote in their police chief. Many of the police have friends and neighbors in the community. They are much more efficient than what I see in SA and I do feel more safe in the States than in SA. Reports are that the Oak Creek Police were at the Sikh Temple in less than 2 minutes. Very responsive. But not fast as a bullet.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-08-05 21:30

      @PJP - Knowing you have a ZA wife, did she tell you that "Many of the police have friends and neighbors in the community" here too. The way that plays out is seldom in the interest of the entire community though, just the friends and neighbours. Every system has things that work and flaws. In a largely peaceful and law-abiding society without extremes of poverty and wealth, this can work. In evolving societies such as ours, with great extremes, there are too many avenues for corruption and outright disinterest for the common good.

      pisciotta - 2012-08-05 21:50

      Lacrimose - that is a fair comment. My father-in-law is retired from the Police force in Durban. And yes we are "friends". But my point remains, our local police chief is elected by the people in the community - not appointed. Our City and State Judges are also voted on by the people. I don't think you have such Democracy in SA.

  • isabel.ashe.7 - 2012-08-05 22:41

    Aag shame on you all... Crime is all over the world... Yes South Africa is a BEAUTIFULL country... You get off the plain and you the Lions RHINOS and so on.. Dont run South Africa down if you never been there.

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