Storm over 'racist' US campus cake sale

2011-09-28 08:04

Berkeley - Ethnic minority students at the elite US Berkeley college have slammed a "racist" campus bake sale organised to highlight the role of race and gender in university admissions policy.

A row erupted over the sale run by the College Republicans at the University of California, Berkeley which charged students different prices depending on their minority status.

The student group billed its stunt as a satirical protest of legislation that would let public universities consider race and gender in their admissions process.

But students, and eventually administrators, decried the event as racist and insensitive.

Cupcakes of conscience

A carnival atmosphere ruled on Tuesday as protesters packed the university's main quadrangle.

A steady stream of mostly white and Asian students lined up for pink cupcakes priced at $2 for whites, $1.50 for Asians, $1 for Hispanics, $0.75 for blacks and $0.25 for Native Americans. Women got $0.25 off.

Counter-protesters crisscrossed the plaza handing out free baked goods to everyone.

Megan Escalona, a Cuban-American third year conservation major, was among those who had spent the previous night baking "cupcakes of conscience."

Though she agrees that affirmative action is flawed in some ways, Escalona said she deplores the divisive tactics of the College Republicans.

"It's inflammatory on purpose to get a rise out of people, and it's disrespectful," she said.

And at noon, hundreds of students clad in black silently filled the square to demonstrate the need for increased diversity.

Tilo Lopez, a third year history major, said he found these gestures of support comforting, but still felt uncomfortable with the bake sale.

"As a Mexican American, it makes me feel extremely unwelcome because of the way they're raising the issue," he said.


College Republican Vice President Derek Zhou countered that if the event made people uncomfortable, it was only because his group was trying to show the wrongheadedness of bringing up race in any university context.

"If people think this is discriminatory - which it is - they should think the same about the bill," said Zhou a second year student.

Zhou cheerfully endured hostile shouts from passerby, but said the charge from fellow students that he was betraying his race stung more.

On the whole, College Republicans agreed that the bake sale far exceeded their expectations.

"It's finally started a discussion about a very politically incorrect subject," Zhou said. "Hopefully some good will come of it."

  • Richard Butler - 2011-09-28 08:18

    Clever. Ironic that the Republicans are accused of rascism for highlighting a race-based fees criteria. Some people want their cake and to eat it ........... Hahahahahahahahahaha 14 Words.

      Agent Bastad - 2011-09-28 08:56

      Well put.

      pcpcoetzee89 - 2011-09-28 08:58

      Ag shame ... the poor ethnic minorities [read non whites]- it must be so, so, absolutely tough to be an ethnic minority [read non whites]. Ag shame guys ... my heart bleeds for you okes ... even if it is from a bunch of students who are obviously joking ...

  • Jakes - 2011-09-28 08:19

    "But students, and eventually administrators, decried the event as racist and insensitive." so is AA

  • Pete - 2011-09-28 08:32

    It is amazing that "equality" is always the battle cry for groups that feel disenfranchised (by minority groups elsewhere in the world, but by the majority group in RSA), but it is always "in-equality" that is delivered. It is clear that Affirmative Action is not about equality at all.

      moeletse.leqela - 2011-09-28 09:41

      Maybe U R right although its a bit tricky because without affirmative action the advantaged remains advantaged and the disadvantaged still a less advantaged. The only wrong I see is that affirmative action is racist in a way (fire by fire situation ) but the intention is not to harm.

      Felix - 2011-09-28 09:51

      Moeletse, it should have a sundown clause. With the education system in ruins affirmative action will last through many generations when all that was needed was one generation of upliftment with a good education for all and voila anc wouldn't have a majority, oops did I say that?

  • Adams - 2011-09-28 08:33

    An absolutley brilliant way of highlighting how wrong race based admission criteria and pricing is. It seems like all the minorities are happy to take the discount thanks, but just dont mention it , because that is racist. Shame so many victims around the world, my heart bleeds.

      lester.nel - 2011-09-28 09:07

      . agree 100% They say the truth hurts. I’m sure this hit the nail right on the head. Nothing and No one should be judged or excelled by another because of race but on merit of education and aptitude. It’s just a shame that people would rather take the easy way out and pull the race card. Idiots are found in both color spectrums.

      Truth - 2011-09-28 09:50

      I am sure this is also based on the income structure of minorities, whom in most countries earn less than there white counterparts for the same job hence the discounted university fees for there discounted salaries.

      Kenko - 2011-09-28 10:07

      @Truth - Strange how the myth that whites are better paid than blacks for the same job is perpetuated. Actually, just the opposite is true. At least in SA that is.

      Truth - 2011-09-28 10:26

      @Kenko i work in an office where two clerks do the exact accounting function yet the white person earns more than the asian person, my comment was based on a fact not a myth.

      Zee - 2011-09-28 10:30

      @Kenko - that stats are out there chum, it's no myth. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt!

      Adams - 2011-09-28 12:12

      @ Truth, if the facts are so obvious, then why did the minorities and the varsity have a problem with what the Republicans were doing with their pricing. If life was so unfair they should gone and bought the cheaper goods and said yes we need it because we are so disadvantaged, you cant be disadvantaged sometimes and cry foul other times.

      Charmain - 2011-09-28 13:36

      I agree with Adams about the fact that this is racist. However, what most of you don't comment on is that this practice is fact in South African Univercities for quite a few years already. Only it is called the "quota system" where only 10% of students in a class is allowed to be white...

      Truth - 2011-09-29 15:50

      @Adam the discounted fees are there to even the socio-economic disadvantages experienced by minorities.

      Truth - 2011-09-29 15:54

      @charmain this was how non-white students felt during Apartheid, they studied hard wanted to be successful, applied at universities to be told sorry wrong colour. It is painful when the roles are reversed yet you didn't mind when the discrimination was on the oppsite end of the colour spectrum.

  • eric.vanvuuren - 2011-09-28 08:33

    Try living through a 'raising of an issue' in this rasist run country.

  • Freelance Writer - 2011-09-28 08:34

    Aren't liberals a treat? They practice racism every day but hate like hell to have it pointed out to them in such an obvious way. Truth truly does hurt.

  • anonymouse - 2011-09-28 08:38

    Whites are always at the short end of the stick, in countries where they are a majority as well as countries where they are a minority.

      mfundiNdaba - 2011-09-28 09:09

      Spoken like a true mouse :(

      AntonioP - 2011-09-28 18:55

      Must be because: a) Negroes have very loud voices, mannerisms. b) They feel not inhibited to make unreasonable demands. c) Whites feel guilty about being more viable -which dovetails well with (a) and (b).

  • ian - 2011-09-28 08:45

    As an ex South African living in the USA, I am fascinated at how many of the topics hotly debated in SA are the same topics debated here. However, the arguments are nearly always inverted. In SA, it is all about ‘the democracy of majority rule’, and how the ‘will of the (black) majority must prevail’. In the USA, it is all about ‘minority rights’ and ‘protecting the minority from the tyranny of the (white) majority’. Seems to me that the arguments are tailored to whatever gives the non-white the advantage!

      arthur.amgen - 2011-09-28 09:09

      A civilised country has to protect minorities as the majority will run rough shod over them. USA is civilised. SA is not civilised. I rest my luggage.

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-09-28 09:41

      Rincewind? Is that you?

      typojoe - 2011-09-28 11:31

      You are so right. It works exactly like that all over the world. The American Indian and Australian aboriginals appear to have lost out though. Not that I am an expert on the subject.

      50-50 - 2011-09-28 11:43

      In the USA the minority blacks were subjected to discrimination and disadvantaged b4 affirmative action. In SA the majority blacks were subjected to discrimination and disadvantaged b4 affirmative action. Do the maths and you get the same answer.

      DEVILS SON - 2011-09-28 12:27

      not in my world, people earn my respect regardless of colour or sex, and i will gladly share with them, but people i do not know have only default respect and get treated well but get nothing more than that. minority rights, hahaha we should push for that here in sa

      nic - 2011-09-28 13:36

      LMAO. seems true @arthur.amgen. as long as you don't rest your luggage in SAA or ACSA's care you should be ok :)

  • litefeather - 2011-09-28 08:47

    very inteligent way of expressing this racial based college admission,only the dof people saw this as racist,but it was not about a cake sale at all,very clever,they should have a sale like that in south africa

      Shistirrer - 2011-09-28 09:34

      The only difference is that ethnic minorities will be expected to pay MORE.

      Cire - 2011-09-28 11:08

      IN SA the minorities will have to pay double while the majority get their cupcakes for free.

      Cobus.P - 2011-09-28 12:45

      In SA the cupcakes would be stolen,at least two people raped, and one axed to death. Perpetrators will then be hailed as freedom fighters...

  • JMan - 2011-09-28 08:49

    I would just get my black friends to buy me lots of cupcakes for cheaper!

      Jimm636 - 2011-09-28 08:54

      good thinking. then again some other minority would accuse you of exploiting a minority. then again, anything for cake...

      Grey B - 2011-09-28 08:57

      I'm sure they would, partners in crime. You my friend has really evolved. Cant beat them, join them mentality.

      burtfred - 2011-09-28 09:26

      If you get your black mate to buy the cakes at discount for you, he's going to want commission on the deal. More or less how BEE works.

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-09-28 09:42

      THE CAKE IS A LIE! /obligatory

      DerpyHooves - 2011-09-28 09:45


      bonny - 2011-09-28 12:41

      Let's have our cake and eat it.

      Matt :-) - 2011-09-28 15:44

      @ Jman - send the maid to buy them

  • ian - 2011-09-28 08:53

    @ JMan Aha!...........and in Proudly South Africa that is called 'fronting'.

  • colin - 2011-09-28 08:55

    Transformation and integration will always be opposed by the ones who were the advantaged in the days gone by - working and living in an environment were you are not freely accepted because you may not have the correct skin colour is a frustration in itself.

  • theprodigy - 2011-09-28 08:59

    cupcake sale racism & they think they have it tough, here in SA, the racist ANC Govt, bases entry into university on the color of your skin, blacks get preference over performing whites & coloreds, can you imagine if this happened at cupcake campus.

  • tootingdel - 2011-09-28 09:08

    What a shame. The point they are making is so valid. They were refering to discrimation. That is wrong. Why is it ok to discriminate in favour of one group because of their color and for it to be inappropriate when applied to another. Surely in university administration the costs should be the same for all; maybe provide grants for the less well off; and ensure that entrance criteria - educational ability - is the determining factor, not the color of your skin. Until we make the color of one's skin irrelevant in these matters discrimination will continue. We have to make it no longer an issue and that means everyone is treated the same.

      Nkutist - 2011-09-28 09:20

      Dude you can't really expect a once unequal society to become equal. E.g. WE work together, we make a profit of R1000, i say because im better than you i get to take the whole R1000. Then someone says that no thats not right and we have to be equal, so i agree but im not wiling to share that R1000 which i should have shared in the 1st place. Wouldn't it be appropriate if someone stepped in line and "forced" me to share at least a little of that R1000 to make up for what i didn't get before? I hate the fact that people use colour for alot of things, its quite degrading to some point. But in a world where colour was always an issue its going to take a while to get to the point where i isn't. The Best thing would be for us to akk just shag and have 1 race, Caucafroasinlatino!!!

      cerveza - 2011-09-28 09:40

      @tootingdel - the proposed bill they are protesting again does not give discount or grants, but is basically a quota system that is trying to "diversify" them and therefor makes race and gender part of the possible requirements in case too many of one group is already there. I know that many Americans have asked for such a system as there are often cases of non-white students that did very well at school does not get accepted but their lower scoring white friend did get in. But solutions based on race will never solve problems of racism. They should rather propose a bill which do not include any personal information, only you academic record and a number. And once everyone has been selcted, then you tell them you name, colour and sex so they can more easily recognize you when you show up.

  • Nkutist - 2011-09-28 09:10

    You guys understand the reasoning as to why Affirmative Action and BEE are in place right? Because it isn't a plot to destroy "White People" as many of you think it is!? I certainly agree that the practical delivery of AA and BEE isn't as good as the thpught behind it. Yeah there are other ways and means to bring up the issue, but a cake sale that is bltantly Racist is not so appropriate. You end up losing support from people who otherwise would have supported you because they feel offended. I feel for white people, anything they do that affects a person of a different racial group is highlighted. The reason is coz white people have a bad history of race relations, Slavery, Apartheid etc.... Look at the US during the days of Dr Martin Luther King,the KKK and our own nation. and guys lets ne honest you've never heard of Asian, Latin or Black supremesists? And it sucks that other racial groups try take advantage of some peoples quilt. Black people have a bad history of cultural relations, black on black crime, genocide etc... Its horrible!! All of that crap sucks. And the republicans don't have the greatest record GW BUSH!!

      Nkutist - 2011-09-28 09:30

      Almaki true may be, but i suppose that some of that ideal is reactionary to what happened to them? I don't agree with it, but it had never been as prominet as it is for white people, maybe due to the violent nature!! And like i said its always going to be highlighted more because of the history... The lynching of black people in the US, the killing of Aborigine's in Australia etc... I know racists exist in withing every group, JM is a prime example but it racism by other coutlres hasn't been on as big a scale. I mean there was slavery in on all continents before it was made prominent by the europeans.

      Wonderboy - 2011-09-28 09:31

      I wonder if the thought behind apartheid was very much like the thought behind BEE and AA, it just did not quite turn out well.

      Nkutist - 2011-09-28 09:46

      Wonderboy, ok in what way is this country just like it was during aparthied? You clearly don't like the idea of BEE and AA becasue you feel marginalised for no reason? It makes it hard to debate the matter if some of you guys don't want to accept the thinking behing AA and BEE and why its put in place. Alot of you seem to think its a way to get revenge on white people and i think thats just sad!!

      clintmilne - 2011-09-28 10:47

      Nkululeko Nkutha you're an idiot!!! AA and BEE is not working and is reversed apartheid!!! South Africa is the only country in the world where the majority wants to stop the minority by enforcing BEE and AA.Why is the millions of blacks so scared that the white folk will still be more successful?? But we are still thriving in school, business and creating more jobs than the government who is just out to enrich them selves EVER WILL!!! Go and nationalize the mines and steal land from white farmers and see what will happen to this country. The few high and mighty blacks will become richer, and the millions of poor blacks will become poorer. We need to work together and not against each other! But if MALenema has his way all the whites should be killed... oh and PS, there are a number of black supremacy groups world wide: black panthers, new black panthers, The United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors, Tribu Ka,The Nation of Yahweh and Bobo Shanti!!!!

      cerveza - 2011-09-28 10:50

      @Nkutist - BEE/AA is similar to Apartheid because it classify people by their appearance and not by their abilities. I recognize all the imbalances that was created during Apartheid and are 100% in support of fixing these imbalances, but by grouping people again will only achieve that we stay in these groups and do not allow us a chance to judged as individuals and only account for our own actions. it starts at the bottom, form kindergarten levels we must 1st be made equal, then primary school and then high school. If all can receive equal services up to this level, no need for AA at university or the private sector should be necessary. It all starts at kindergarten

      Cire - 2011-09-28 11:12

      @Clintmilne. What is 'reversed' apartheid? Its just apartheid no matter who practices it. Same as 'reversed' racism - what is that? Racism is racism whether the victim is black or white.

      cerveza - 2011-09-28 11:26

      @clintmilne - SA in not the only country in the world where the majority has made laws to advantage them over the minority. Israel also have such laws. Many Arab countries have discrimination laws against non-Arabs. At the moment in Lithuania minorities are protesting against a proposed law that puts them in an disadvantage to get into university and many majority groups have have created unfair environments that gives them special treatment all through history. It is not a special circumstance, but that still does not make it right. But please, please people, stop with the "only in SA" or "only in Africa" statements, because that only means you have never looked at what happens in the rest of the world

      grant_grant - 2011-09-28 13:25

      easy to talk when you on the receiving end you d * ck, my wife was denied university entrance because the quota and entrance costs for white woman is ridiculous. Even damn asians and chinese have more recognition than us whiteys. BEE is just reverse racism. Just feels like I'm being squeezed out of our own country. ANC are the biggest racists, thats the main issue. I've spoken to many ANC members and there is no place for the whiteys in their grand plan, so its an easy decision, emigrate to a country where my skills can be appreciated and utilized and not be discriminated because of the colour of my skin...

      clintmilne - 2011-09-28 13:30

      @cerveza (beer) I do not know where you got your info from but cannot find any of your comments to be correct? Cannot find anything on Lithuanian Affirmative Action?? And do not use the Arab countries as examples as that is purely based on religion... Affirmative action by definition is: Intended as an attempt to promote equal opportunity.It is often instituted in government and educational settings to ensure that minority groups within a society are included in all programs. NOT majority? These laws cause disproportionally high costs for small companies and reduce economic growth and employment. The laws may give the black middle-class some advantage but can make the worse-off blacks even poorer! Part of that challenge arises from the fact that the ANC is not a normal political party. When a party with a two-thirds majority in Parliament is still committed to a "national democratic revolution," we must ask what it is that they wish to stage a revolution against. The economic system? Probably. Democracy? Perhaps. The rule of law? Very likely. The Constitution? Possibly. My question still stands, what is the government afraid of?

      daaivark - 2011-09-28 13:37

      Off you go then Grant-grant. Bye now.

      Nkutist - 2011-09-28 14:19

      BEE is reverse apartheid? how? During apartheid black people were removed from their arears of residence and relagated to the townships having housing made out of iron plates, they had the bucket system to use for their toilets, no paved roads, no proper running water and lived in dusty downtrodden areas. Black people had to carry a pass to travel around and had curfews. Black people were only limited to Bantu eductaion that only qualified them to be servants for white people by working menial jobs suchs as being maids, house keepers, gearden boys, working on farms etc. Limited acces to knowledge and opportunities. Black people were in schools whre they didn't have access to certain materials and their facilities were horrible. Have any of you spent a couple of days in a township? Black people were't allowed in white specific arears like beaches, parks, bars, buses etc. Blacks wre punished for getting involved romantically with their white counterparts. Blacks weren't employed in major roles and very few if any black people owned successful and reknowed businesses. The violence went both ways so i'm not going to comment on that, but we all know the kind of unnecessary killing and torturing that happened. So please tell me, how is AA or BEE anything like that? Have any of you experienced any of that?

      Nkutist - 2011-09-28 14:46

      Ai guys my intention wasn't to degrade white people. I was just stating a fact according to what history says... To some of you guys, you really need to acknowledge what happened during aprthied and understand what the "Majority" which was once a minority both socially and economically went through. So lets state facts when we argue not swear or insult other people. No one race is perfect, we all have issues and we all have bloody racist idiots with their stupid ideals.

      clintmilne - 2011-09-28 15:41

      Since 1970 the budget for black education was raised by about 30% per year every year. More than any other government department. In the period 1955 -1984 the amount of black school students increased 31 times from 35,000 to 1,096 000. 65% of black South African children were at school compared to Egypt 64%, Nigeria 57%, Ghana52%, Tanzania50% and Ethiopia 29%.In South Africa, the whites built 15 new classrooms for blacks every working day, every year. At 40 children per class it meant space for an additional 600 black students every day!!!

      clintmilne - 2011-09-28 15:44

      In 1985 there were 42,000 Blacks at 5 universities in South Africa, about the same amount at the universities of the homelands. South Africa had 4,8 million whites and 18,2 million blacks in 1987. The whites paid 77% of the taxes and the blacks only 15%...despite this...56% of the government budget was spent on blacks.At the hight of Apartheid in 1978 Soweto had 115 football fields, 3 Rugby fields, 4 athletic tracks, 11 Cricket fields, 2 Golf courses, 47 Tennis courts, 7 swimming pools built to Olympic standards, 5 Bowling alleys, 81 Netball fields, 39 children play parks, and countless civic halls, movie houses and clubhouses. In addition to this, Soweto had 300 churches, 365 schools, 2 Technical Colleges, 8 clinics, 63 child day care centres, 11 Post Offices, and its own fruit and vegetable market. There were 2300 registered companies that belonged to black businessmen, about 1000 private taxi companies. 3% of the 50,000 vehicle owners in 1978 were Mercedes Benz owners. Soweto alone had more cars, taxis, schools, churches and sport facilities than most independent countries in Africa. The Blacks of South Africa had more private vehicles than the entire white population of the USSR at the time. Please my friend stop blaming apartheid and start blaming your useless ANC Government, there is still people living in shacks more than 15 years after the ANC got into power and they will be living there till kingdom come. Because your black brothers are only out to enrich themselves!

      cerveza - 2011-09-29 08:43

      @clintmilne - Firstly if you read my 1st comment you would see I am against BEE/AA as I am against any law grouping people by external appearances and you could have saved our time explaining to me something I already know: what AA is and getting all preachy as we stand on the same side about the topic. Secondly here in my information explained, there are many articles from both the Polish and the Russian perspective just learn to google better. In Lithuania about 13% of the population speaks Polish or Russian and there are schools as well as university branches in their mother tongue available, yet a new proposed law would require everyone to do a university access test in Lithuanian and they must also take Lithuanian Language Studies and History in the Lithuanian language no matter what they study. Or what language their other classes are in. I see you ignored the my Israel comment, I take your silence means you can't dispute that one. Just because Arab countries hide behind religion to oppress an minority, does not make it any different. Does apartheid also get excluded because the government hid behind the NG-kerk? The government is not afraid, they are just clueless on how to rectify the problems of the past and the people want change. So BEE/AA is an superficial solution, not solving the problem but merely creating the illusion that they are working on it and than justice will served.

      clintmilne - 2011-09-29 14:31

      wow beer man, you know how to google! well done! If You agree with me why did you not just like my comment instead of starting a argument???? I see I'm not going to get through to you!

  • DBZ - 2011-09-28 09:17

    Brilliant, I know how they feel.

  • simon - 2011-09-28 09:28

    Blacks in USA have been 'free' for over 150 years. They have had every opportunity possible in the most free country of all. They have been bussed into schools to try to get them up to civilised standards, they have been given easier access to education, they have been assisted in every possible way. And yet they still need special treatment, handouts, cheaper rates, free housing, etc. etc. etc.. What is wrong with them ? Will it ever end ? Are they entirely unable to stand on their own two feet and CONTRIBUTE to society rather than suck from it ??

      Nkutist - 2011-09-28 10:00

      Lol the freedom to vote doesn't mean much when you can't do much about it... you can't eat freedom now can you? Bra thre are some black people who do contribute to the nation and in some states black people are doing very well for themselves. But i agree, some black people just like to wait for things to be done for them and aren't looking to better themselves. Its a horrible trait and undermines the hardwork that other black people put in... Even here in SA there are alot of black people waiting for hand outs just loafing around and its annoying!!! But never forget where all the black people come from. Thre is still alot of racism in the US so states alot worse than others, there is still alot of inequality in the states and they still have a while to go. Its getting the nation to be free in the mind and i think having Obama voted as president did alot for blacks and other minorities. Now they as black people have no real excuse for not trying to better themselves!!

  • mildlyamused - 2011-09-28 09:33

    Why are the minorities complaining?! They get cake for cheaper! BARGAIN! Anyway, this is absolutely genius.

  • granadilla - 2011-09-28 09:34

    these republican youths are ignorant. Their forefathers carried out ethnic cleansing on the native americans and now they are complaining because the native american has subsidised education.

      fishycraig - 2011-09-28 11:09

      And in SA the blacks moving south displaced/killed out the original San people. Every race has a past. It is time to discard the chips on our shoulders and just move on.

  • Analyst - 2011-09-28 09:35

    There seems to be a general trend that "previously disadvantaged" people who always wanted "equal" rights, starts to cry for an advantage once they receive those rights.

  • Point Blank - 2011-09-28 09:38

    Racist for highlighting racism? Oh boy, will they ever get rid of that chip??

  • simon - 2011-09-28 09:41

    Are Whites really so superior that they need to be handicapped at every turn? Like superior horses in a handicap race ? Talking about race, are the other races so lacking in pride that they accept this blatant declaration of their inferiority ?

      proudandpink - 2011-09-28 11:27

      Spot on. Pity the 'previously disadvantaged' aren't unable to understand this.

      AntonioP - 2011-09-28 22:59

      "Are Whites really so superior that they need to be handicapped at every turn?" Yes of course they are -but don't say it! In this PC, egalitarian, pinko, loony academia world, we have this bizarre paradox: there's NO base for racism; blacks and whites are equally gifted (NEVER DARE to state the opposite!), but on the other hand blacks (other minorities too) are permanently disadvantaged and need a leg (or two, three.) up. Go figure.

  • flatline_now - 2011-09-28 09:42

    Didn't some South Africans at RAU do this exact same thing a couple of years ago ?

      flatline_now - 2011-09-28 09:49

      It did happen at pretoria university mg dot co dot za/article/2008-04-11-political-cake-sale-at-pretoria-varsity-halted

  • Die Bergie - 2011-09-28 09:53

    They were trying to point out that racial discrimination is crazy. Basing student admissions on race and gender is just as stupid as a race-based bake sale. It's sad that some people missed the point

  • UserName - 2011-09-28 09:54

    How is this racist? I thought racism was "the belief of inherent inferiority of other races". This bake sale is a comment on the unfair policies accorded to race groups. This is a protest against politically correct BS

  • Fred - 2011-09-28 09:59

    The selection of somebody to anything based on his nationality or skin colour can only be classed as racist.

  • litefeather - 2011-09-28 10:05

    Like i said!!reading the comments,people seeing this as racist at all,are the real racists,it was sarcasm towards the college,it was a message "dumb asses" I think what they saying was "if you want to treat us according to our race we'll act accordingly"

  • litefeather - 2011-09-28 10:52

    what the people don't realise is,during appartheid whites were not given freebies they had to work,things were based on pride not handouts,today they give hand outs,a person will remain "disadvantaged"for as long as people spoon feed him

      Tomas - 2011-09-28 13:54

      litefeather stop being ignorant.during apartheid whites were given opportunities,thats why you see them at an advantage now.Imagine if all people were given the same chances where will SA be?just imagine.

  • letsee - 2011-09-28 10:52

    What's the problem? Why to hide the reality and pretend that all is OK?

  • Cire - 2011-09-28 11:06

    So charging different amounts for different races for cupcakes is 'racist' but charging different amounts for different races for varisty fees isn't racist? How desperately confused modern liberals are!

  • fishycraig - 2011-09-28 11:11

    I wonder if the blacks bought chocolate chip cupcakes.

      simon - 2011-09-29 20:13

      Nope, only brownies.

  • Quo Vadis? - 2011-09-28 11:43

    Whatever happened to good old common sense and admission on merits and bloody merits alone??????????? In the professional arena, we are starting to embrace mediocrity instead of striving for excellence.

  • MattVan - 2011-09-28 11:43

    I dislike the use of race to determine entrance/financial aid. But when there are social and economic inequalities, these factors need to be addressed. Without a positive force for change inertia keeps things the same. Its not enought to say 'we are all equal' if the side effects of segregation ensure we are not so.

  • Fhatuwani - 2011-09-28 11:44

    I am proud of African American because they have already embraced the "do it yourself attitude" as espoused by Bra Steve Biko, Malcolm X and other civil rights movement. Education is not the only means of survival for Blacks in the USA. The majority use their talent in music, sports, films to make a living. It is also interesting to note that they even use the talent to challenge the status quo.

  • PyroSA - 2011-09-28 12:32

    "As a Mexican American, it makes me feel extremely unwelcome because of the way they're raising the issue," he said. How does he think it makes white males feel who apply at that very institution? Welcome?

  • Abdul - 2011-09-28 12:33

    The reason for AA was always to pay for the wrong committed by other white people. I reject this logic. I say we go after the guilty instead of their chiildren.

      Tomas - 2011-09-28 13:50

      Abdul The reason isbecause the children are at an advantage because of the parent and visa vesa

  • bonny - 2011-09-28 12:51

    Why are educational fees not inversely proportional to your grades?ie. the better your grades, the less you pay. Race, gender, physical disabilities have nothing to do with it at all.

      AntonioP - 2011-09-28 22:38

      Bonny is confused. "Mental retardation", and gender (in most cases Bonny, are you blond?) or physical disabilities have of course little to do with it. But "race" (in a certain sense of the word.) has very much to do with "it". There may be totally brilliant Bantus, but on average, their potential lacks. So your proposal would be iniquitous, divorced from realities -not to mention not quite popular. Read the "Bell Curve". Think again.

  • litefeather - 2011-09-28 14:05

    There is allot more to this bee thing,i don't know about anybody else,but if i were put in a leader position because of my skin colour,whether it be for historical reasons or not wouldn't make me feel right,and i'v noticed that people don't respect them the same as someone that work himself up through experience and was "eventually"got to the top,i ride on dignity... money is not everything,i would rather be poor and happy... than rich and being disrespected and hated.No way can i sit next to a person at varsity of a different colour knowing in my mind he had to work twice as hard cause born a different race or colour,they say "a race is best won running"

  • Ebrahim - 2011-09-28 15:34

    Actually red indians shouldnt be paying at all, it is after all their country which the Europeans took over savagely by the GUN.

  • TRC911 - 2011-10-09 18:56

    university of Pretoria also needs to go through the same process coz all is not well in here...

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