Syria defies warning, shells Turkey again

2012-10-05 19:22

Istanbul - Turkey returned fire on Friday after a new Syrian shell landed in on its territory close to their common border, NTV private news channel reported.

The Syrian shell landed in the Turkish town of Altinozu in Hatay province near the border, triggering an immediate response fire from Turkish forces, at around 16:30 GMT. 

The Anadolu Agency quoted the governor for Hatay province as saying that Turkish troops "responded with fire" after the mortar round landed in a rural area of the province that borders Syria.

There were no immediate reports of injuries.

Turkish artillery has fired at Syrian targets for two straight days after shelling from Syria killed five civilians in Turkey.

Turkey's parliament on Thursday also voted to allow cross border military operations in Syria.

The uprising against Syrian President Bashar Assad erupted in March 2011 and has gradually morphed into a bloody civil war, killing more than 30 000 people, according to activists.

  • lionel.defrontignac - 2012-10-05 19:36

    This is the sort of thing that could spark a regional conflict.

      J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-10-05 20:15

      You mean the Kurds?

      Tony Lapson - 2012-10-05 20:33

      Thanks CPt. Obvious.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-06 00:30

      The genocidal delusional racist Keith speaks again.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-10-06 00:52

      Keith, It can't be easy, living in your extreme violent mind !!

      stephanie.sutherland41 - 2012-10-06 06:09

      @Keith - Russia has a treaty with the USA/ UK and Other allied countries. So it will be you, china and one of the Korean countries and some african countries who can't fall off the bed properly who will take on the rest of the world. Make no mistake, if it comes to war the Allied countries will wipe the face of the earth clean so you need to stop being an numbscull.

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-10-06 11:13

      I guess Keith would love a chance to live in China or Nort Korea. His rants on face book in China would earn him a trip to the police station where he would be "interviewed" and then sentenced to a long period of hardlabour and re-education. North Korea might be better as after the "interview" is painfully conclude he would be eliminated or subjected to a show trial and then starved to death in a labour camp. Keith should be careful what he wishes for. Perhaps he should just emigrate to one of these paragons of justice and democracy.

      Andre - 2012-10-06 13:13

      At some time, all Israel's enemies are going to kill millions of their own (Israel's enemies) while Israel, and although Israel will suffer losses as well, they will emerge victoriously in the end. It is all in the Scriptures. Believe it and know, it is written!

      Andre - 2012-10-06 13:16

      Keith, I have very bad news for you. Change your mindset and religion perhaps. It is going to turn out just the opposite than what you desire!

  • jans.opresser - 2012-10-05 19:38

    syria is not firing on turkey! the al-qaeda rebels are! this is a false flag operation by the al-qaeda rebels to draw nato and turkey into the war to illegally attempt to invade syria! they will fail because the russians have already warned nato that they will defend syria from any nato backed or sponsored invasion of their ally! russia should just drop a few of their STEALTH MISSILES on the turkish presidential palace to bring the moron edergon to his senses! turkey and america are backing the wrong horse in syria! how many dead US ambassadors will it take for them to see that?

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-05 19:48

      Jans is on the spot. He knows. Plus, not only does he support brutal unelected dictators crushing all opposition to their autocratic rule, he supports the undemocratic neo-Soviet Russian regime led by an ex-KGB officer. Not smart. At all.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-05 19:49

      But living up to his "opresser" name.

      jans.opresser - 2012-10-05 20:07

      stop lying gerhard..that was to the bombing two days ago!

      wwrer.ww - 2012-10-05 20:10

      So is that the official Al Qaeda position on the conflict?

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-05 20:21

      This is what the story says, Jans. Comments relate to it, not your arm-chair and prejudiced version of reality. "Turkey returned fire on Friday after a new Syrian shell landed in on its territory close to their common border, NTV private news channel reported."

      jans.opresser - 2012-10-05 20:31

      fred,and there was NO APOLOGY to this ALLEDGED bombing either?

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-05 20:35

      Not yet.

      jans.opresser - 2012-10-05 20:54

      fred, o.k see me AFTER the apology has been given.

      Desilusionada - 2012-10-05 21:01

      You are worse than this Fidel idiot! False flag. learnt it form the walking moron didn't you? Go play with your little plastic tank in the garden and make little shooting noises, until you have grown some more braincells.........

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-10-05 22:35

      @Disillusioned Just because somebody doesn't agree with your point of view, does not make them idiots. Such a narrow-minded view betrays nothing but a narrow mind. You have a cankered brain, which is equivalent to having none at all.

      om.nom.nom.01 - 2012-10-05 23:41

      fidel.mgoqi... You are absolutely correct, just because you don't agree with Desilusionada's point of view does not make you an idiot. It's your moronic chain of thought that you carelessly put into words on this forum that makes you.... an I.D.I.O.T. In fact you write so much rubbish it makes you two idiots. And your stupid name simply reinforces that fact!!!!!!!!!!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-06 00:34

      Fidel, virtually the entire world would agree that believing Nelson Mandela is a phony, a lackey of the West, a modern day Uncle Tom is mindless. Your exact words in the US/Mandela thread a few weeks ago. Think about that. Virtually the entire world. That is how mindless you're being, and arrogant.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-10-06 00:57

      Fidel, """Just because somebody doesn't agree with your point of view, does not make them idiots""" Hear, hear, who is talking!!! NOBODY, insults others on this site, than you !! CLOWN !!

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-10-06 11:22

      Fool you should read what the Russian Ammbassador to the UN said. They have warned Syria not to fire on Turkey. They don't think its Al Quaeda, because Al Quaeda have not managed to penetrate Syria or its ally Iran.

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-10-06 11:23

      Fidel, your first reasonable comment, its a pity you weren't able to leave for Cuba, North Korea or Iran before you posted it.

  • luyolo.mhlauli.9 - 2012-10-05 20:02

    its a false flag attack. Why would Syria shoot at a Nato member Turkey. I mean Asaad would still like to hold on to power so its not in his interest to attack Turkey. I mean Asaad is has internal problems so why would he invite more problems from neighbouring Turkey by shooting mortars at them. but then again everything is blamed at Asaad even when his own soldiers are killed by the rebels the mainstream media says the army fired the shots.

      jans.opresser - 2012-10-05 20:11

      well said, and it makes no difference what lies that fred,or Gerhard....hell.......... or what even america and nato tells because the russians have warned them that they will back assad regardless! putin should drop a missile on turkey to drive home the message!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-05 20:16

      I agree with you up to your last sentence. That's plain naive and silly.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-05 20:16

      The neo-Soviet autocrat "Oppresser" living up to his name again.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-10-05 20:21

      Why would they shoot down a turkish fighter plane?

      luyolo.mhlauli.9 - 2012-10-05 20:26

      it was shot down by Syrian air defense systems which shoot at any foreign military jet that violates the Syrian airspace rules and yes it was proven that the Turkish jet was on Syrian airspace. They didn't just shoot at a Turkish flying on its usual Turkish airspace route.

      luyolo.mhlauli.9 - 2012-10-05 20:31

      Yes its silly Fred I was just using that as an exaggeration to highlight that we should sometimes use common sense instead of hurling insults and accusations at Assad. He is no Angel but he wouldn't gain anything by attacking Turkey it would just amount to suicide

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-05 20:31

      It was not proven at all. Turkey retrieved the flight details from the wreck, which reflected that the plane did not enter Syrian airspace. Syria is a sovereign state run by an illegitimate regime. This doesn't seem to bother you. Did you support the Apartheid regime, which was also illegitimate?

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-10-05 20:32

      A slight inaccuracy. Now they are being paid back for their slight inaccuracies.

      luyolo.mhlauli.9 - 2012-10-05 20:39

      oh so was it proven that it did not enter Syrian airspace ?

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-05 20:40

      I agree with you up to a point, Luyolu. However, it's obvious who the guy doing bad things is here, isn't it. We went through a similar thing in South Africa. We should not stand for it.

      luyolo.mhlauli.9 - 2012-10-05 20:41

      because Syria says it entered and Turkey says it didnt.

      luyolo.mhlauli.9 - 2012-10-05 20:49

      I would like to see change in Syria but if we ignore the fact that there are Al Qaeda elements within these rebels we are going to experience the same kind of blow back that happened last month in Libya. Libya is said to safe and sound after Gaddafi but we were proved wrong by the killing of a US diplomat. Not even Gaddafi was that audacious.

      jans.opresser - 2012-10-05 20:58

      luyolo,they are not elements of al-qaeda, they ARE AL-QAEDA! and they are foreign jihadist which makes them foreign invaders! same thing that happened in libya!

      jans.opresser - 2012-10-05 21:02

      fred,syria is being run by the official govt! you didnt learn a thing from libya did you not?how many dead foreign ambassadors will it take for you to get the memo that the rebels are al-qaeda? and the libyans are not helping the US at all! they know that the rebels are al-qaeda and will overthrow them also if they help america. which can and will lead to only one conclusion. america will invade libya and occupy that country! it will then turn into somalia northwest! nothing good will come from libya and russia will defend syria!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-05 21:14

      Jans, you're being an obstinate fool. No government that is unelected and kills its citizens is legitimate. Everyone knows this.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-05 21:19

      The rest of your post is undifferentiated nonsense.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-05 21:27

      I don't think anyone is ignoring that Al-Quaida are present in Syria, Luyolu. They're a small minority. Granted they can cause much pain and suffering, but they are a small element. The most reliable estimate I have heard is 5% to 10% of those removing Assad from unelected power. Libya has a bright future. It's present would be far brighter had Gaddafi been a truer leader.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-10-06 01:12

      Jans, aka that violentguyfromnewyorkcity, """During his address to the UN General Assembly, Mohammed el-Megarif, leader of Libya's ruling national congress, said the Libyan people were moderate and the country would never be home to extremist groups""" He went on to say; """I stand before you today, before the entire world, to apologise for all the harm, all the crimes committed by that despot, gadaffi, against so many innocents, to apologise for the extortion and terrorism he meted out on so many states," Megarif said. Elected leader of Libya !!!!!

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-10-06 05:50

      Luloyo, """I would like to see change in Syria but if we ignore the fact that there are Al Qaeda elements within these rebels we are going to experience the same kind of blow back that happened last month in Libya. Libya is said to safe and sound after Gaddafi but we were proved wrong by the killing of a US diplomat. Not even Gaddafi was that audacious.""" What an utter BS !!! Are you saying, that as there are political killings here in SA, ( especially KZN, even after 18 years of our first democratic elections, it would have been better if the Nats had stayed in power ??????????????????????????

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-10-06 11:18

      Jans.opressor the Syrian Government is a hereditary dictatorship, which came to power in a coup d'etat, just like North Korea. It cannot have de jure status. A little bit more education and learning would go a long way to improving your outlook and dumb comments.

  • philhaj - 2012-10-05 20:03

    its obvious Syria isnt behind this,,no government soldier would fire at Turkey at this moment,,nato is just looking 4 an excuse.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-05 20:17

      There hasn't been a response from NATO. It seems you're just looking for an excuse to blame it.

      jans.opresser - 2012-10-05 20:22

      trust me fred,the response from nato is coming! they would be well advised to shut the hell up and stay the hell out! russia's destroyers are parked off the coast of syria and will turn turkey into shards of glass!!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-05 20:32

      Together with Fidel and Patrick, you are the most untrustworthy commentator on this site, unfortunately.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-10-05 20:36

      The US and NATO far outnumber any russian presence in the Mediterranian.

      philhaj - 2012-10-05 20:50

      fred its in natos mandate to react when a member state is threatened thats why they are using Turkey as an excuse...they desperately need Assad out before the attack on Iran.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-05 21:32

      You'd be right if the martyrs hadn't been fired by Syrian forces landed in Turkey. You're not. It's dangerous to superimpose your own version of reality onto events.

      kevin.watson.7906 - 2012-10-06 11:15

      It must have been the tooth fairy who fired the shells into Turkey!

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-10-06 21:35

      Patrick, """The two tossers Anthony and Fred speak with nothing to offer but CRAP. Both enjoying having a USA dildo stuck up their behinds, climaxing every 5 minutes whilst jerking themselves off.""" Patrick 05 Oct 2012 You really THAT naive, after posting FILTH, like above, ANYONE is interested in your utterings ??????

  • joyce.beeton - 2012-10-05 20:40

    WAR IS THE MOST FUTILE ACTIVITY IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. No one lives forever, nothing can be taken with you when you leave. So what the hell is the point? Why can't men just decide to live amongst one another in peace!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-05 20:41

      Well said. There was a time when it was effective. No longer. The pain and suffering it causes are incalculable, and unspoken.

  • lindela.e.mtshali - 2012-10-06 10:13

    Syria's dictator is foolish to provoke a reaction from Nato. Once they declare a no fly zone his goose will be cooked! You don't want to mess with those dudes. Very soon we will be watching a video of him dying humiliating death on Youtube. You don't want to go out like the fake revolutionary in Libya! What was his name again? The world will go on without him soon

  • whatda.fuqbro - 2012-10-06 11:32

    Fascinating. The Syrian government is either suicidal or blissfully considers itself to be invulnerable. And it definitely is the government's doing since they claimed responsibility for the first shelling.

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