Syrian rebels agree to united leadership

2012-10-16 20:22

Beirut - Syria's divided rebels have agreed to set up a joint leadership to oversee their battle to overthrow President Bashar Assad, after coming under increasing pressure from their foreign supporters to unite, two rebel sources said on Tuesday.

The decision, taken by dozens of rebels - including Free Syrian Army leaders - at a meeting inside Syria on Sunday, aims to improve military co-ordination among fighters and create a single leadership which they hope outside powers would be prepared to arm with more powerful weapons.

"The agreement has been reached, they only need to sign it now," one rebel source said.

The foreign backers "are telling us: 'Sort yourselves out and unite, we need a clear and credible side to provide it with quality weapons'."

  • fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-16 21:00

    The natural progression of all liberation movements.

  • fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-16 21:06

    Putin, Diana and Dunkie will soon be shown the door, as they should. The West's position is only slightly better, having hardly helped the Syrian people liberate themselves.

  • Sibusiso - 2012-10-16 21:50

    You go Nato, give them more guns, tell them not to go for a negotiated settlement. Tell them to go fight and kill Assad supporters. War and more war is good to bring peace. You go Nato, you have higher morals than the Iranians and the Russians who fuel the civil war by providing Assad with weapons.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-16 22:41

      Syrians trying to free themselves are not puppets, Sibusiso. You should know that. Were you?

      duncan.gill1 - 2012-10-16 23:22

      Sibusiso I like your take on things!You my friend give some one like me hope that I am not alone in my thinking..thanks!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-16 23:34

      Dunkie "thinks" Al-Quaida is fabricated by the US to destabilize the stable Middle East. :)

      Shane Loxton - 2012-10-17 15:25

      Sibusiso, so according to your philosophy NATO, UN, Human rights watch, Genocide Watch should supply the whites in your country with the same considering that Genocide Watch has elevated SA to Level 6, what a stupid Philosophy

  • duncan.gill1 - 2012-10-16 21:52

    We will see what will be the outcome of this interference in a countries attempts to make sense of its political destiny.I fear that their will be only a strange one sided support for one side against another..the countries interfering in this conflict see only their own agenda of what they hope to achieve and its rather strange that at this time in proceedings this attempt is being made to divide people by giving the opposition promises of support to achieve their aims.This is foul play and it seems that powers that be seek only to worsen the situation rather then look for a peaceful settlement of this terrible conflict..frankly it stinks to high heaven!It all makes one wonder where this world is heading and who is leading the charge for destruction of this world as we know it!

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-10-16 22:08

      Dunkie, you are alluding to the West "who is leading the charge for destruction of this world..." Strange, the West is leading in freedom and democracy and does so successfully within their own societies. What are you scared of? That the despotic and tyrranical regimes of this world, such as Assad's, will crumble, making space for universal franchise of oppressed citizens of these countries. Unbelievable. Practically evil, to have such an attitude. People want freedom and you would deny them because other free and successful nations dare to help them?

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-16 22:43

      Dunkie, everyone knows it's Putin you're speaking. Everyone.

      duncan.gill1 - 2012-10-16 23:06

      ladlarry and friedbrainfraser..I don't speak for president Putin,of this I can promise you and secondly what I am scared of is that the very people we were taught to trust as we were growing up have become less than the guiding fathers we all so desperately needed as young children.I believe we need to embrace,no matter how hard it is,all sides of the story!My personal change of heart came about when I found out about the 30million average Russian people who had their lives taken away during the defense of Russia against Nazi Germany's military might.I was never taught this in school nor was it ever spoken about by my friends and family as I was growing up!This made me to question the so called integrity of the Western world that I hero worshiped,how could this tragic reality have been so over looked.It was then that I began to question many things that I read in the news media, began to doubt the moral integrity of our Western world leaders.Now you can chastise me if you like differ in how you think I have over reacted...and maybe I am an over sensitive person but to forget to mention the horrific sacrifice that Russian people paid,the highest in human history to date,to achieve the peace the world has enjoyed for the last 67 years,is simply a crime against humanity and all to serve the cold war fears of the US and Western Europe.This made me realize that their is no leadership or kind strong father leading this world but only some scared,paranoia old men who are desperate!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-16 23:43

      Dunkie, did you bunk history classes? WW2 was the most studied war in human history. Every detail was taught ad-nuseum. It seems you also missed the classes about Stalin and the Communist leaders. Far more people were cruelly killed by these "great" leaders than Nazi Germany. Not to diminish those people who were killed by the Nazis. Putin was trained by those same Soviet leaders. Unlike others, he did not shirk what he was taught. He gravitated towards it and is now putting it into practice. Such as imprisoning political opponents and the arming of unelected minority dictators the Assad brothers, who are literally butchering women and children in their homes. Imagine if that was Diana and your son. God forbid. Russia today is slightly more advanced than Soviet Russia, but still forty to fifty years behind the freer world. It's essential to move her forward. She is a heavy, retarded weight on our world and on humanity. As is China.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-16 23:59

      Putin and key elements of his regime are the retarding factors. I very much doubt Russians will allow this to continue much longer.

      duncan.gill1 - 2012-10-17 00:17

      fred fred...what history did you get you know that London refused to allow the granting of Russian medals to veterans of the Arctic conveys during world war 11,does this sound like reasonable to score cheap political points at the cost of old heroes!I say in my comment that the world downplayed Russia's price paid in the 2nd world war to have honored them would have meant that they could not have been the communist bear waiting to eat Western Europe!Do you blame a people who are shunned when they wanted to join the league of nations,who are shunned when they want to play a part in NATO.All in all, all Russia wants is to be excepted as an integral part of for China how do you explain that US businesses open factories in China because they can make things cheaper there..never mind US jobs lost its all about profit you idiot!!In the meantime China's imports support the German economy and allow it to grow..who will create the growth to sustain a faltering world economy if not for China..get real man China may be ruled in a way we don't agree about,but most Chinese must be happy or the country would don't prescribe to anyone how to live their lives,you are an interfering egotist who believe he has the answer to all the worlds problems..why don't you run for political office..OH I forgot you are a talker not a doer!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-17 01:04

      Dunkie, I assure you Joseph Stalin, who was directly responsible for the brutal killing of tens of millions of people, did not decide Russia's foreign policy based on the immature pseudo-victimhood you pretend he had. And neither did the Soviet leaders, who had one thing and one thing only in mind: the annexation of as much of Europe and the world into their autocratic and similarly brutal Communist system of government and society. Putin a slightly advanced model of that cold autocracy. It's no wonder Russia is not part of NATO. It will never be as long as it is neo-Soviet. Nor should it. It shouldn't be a member of the UN Security Council, but is. The world, Syrians in particular, are paying a heavy price for this. Dunkie, you're projecting your own pseudo-victimhood onto the freer workd, and your Inner Child's need for a father figure onto Putin and Russia.

      duncan.gill1 - 2012-10-17 01:28

      freeed fred..I somehow get the idea you are stuck in the past,why is it so hard for you to embrace the possibility that Russia under Vladimir Putin is not the Russia under Joseph Stalin.If you require countries to change their ways and embrace an enlightened way of thinking then surely you should engage these I am trying to engage you insults here no name calling or degrading of each you get my point..this is debate where people share views and learn from each other.Now this should be applied by the world's Western leaders to engage countries they seek to enlighten..this is what responsible people do when trying to help we have toned down our rhetoric towards each other and calm prevails.In this way people start to listen to each other things can change for the better, when people listen to each agree?Now my argument regarding Syria is that the world should find another way to work together..not build up massive military machines and thereby force people to dance to their song..Yes? Their should not be the need for such massive expenditure we should be spending this money on uplifting people so that the world starts to see a better way of life for all.You don't teach people by being the sheriff,the sheriff is their to keep the peace,the idea is that we should not need sheriff's in our brave new world.Sure some mad man will rear his head from time to time but change cannot be forced upon people!

      duncan.gill1 - 2012-10-17 01:40

      fred to continue...All I am saying is that the way Syria was handled from the outset leaves much to be desired..and for this reason I question those lofty men in power who issue such blunt instructions.."or else!" This tactic will only inflame people who are under stress and they will not stop to talk but look to their defenses and react with a suicidal mind set!Such is human nature and especially for those who are a little guilty of a wrongful way of life...One of the greatest folly's of man is to think we can't all judge right from wrong..sure in some cases I think people are so mad as to warrant a mercy killing,who knows what people go through to bring on their madness,they are normally to mad to explain it to themselves never mind anyone else.But to broadly judge people based on some moral pretext of being superior is sure to force many possible converts into radical self justification..not a clever way to help people or leaders change their ways,sorry your demonizing of Russia under President Putin just does not fit.In the US alone we have people like private Manning being held in solitary confinement and many so to say terrorist masterminds languishing AND BEING TORTURED! in Gauntamano Cuba..but hey its the good old trusty US!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-17 03:27

      I'm glad you've chosen to drop fart-fried brain-Fred. Dunkie, let me ask you this: Would you arm an unelected dictator from a minority sect who is killing Syrians and their families because they want to vote? Would you, Dunkie, do this?

      Shane Loxton - 2012-10-17 09:20

      The NVA army was more than 50 years behind the USA and look how that turned out for the US

  • duncan.gill1 - 2012-10-16 23:19

    To carry on...desperate old men who will stop at nothing to hang on to what they see as their world!I also was rather nostalgic in my appreciation of the conservative nature of Russian people who,due to luck of circumstance have been spared the frantic moralities of our societies who parade a persons rights as more important than punishment for the crime he may have committed!I remember growing up and feeling that something is wromg with the world people seem to be so unsure how to deal with anything..everyone says whatever they think so as to defer taking responsibility for anything!There is a marked lack of concern for things people should be talking about and everybody only worries about their own ar*e its so much easier than to take a stand!Anyhow this is how I was feeling growing up and I don't know what led me to Russia's society but it just appealed to me the certainty of life in Russia where people aren't scared to tell other people how to behave if they transgress in any way.A country where people have a hidden strength that seems to be so lacking in other parts of the world!You will say I am a romantic fool who has created his own fantasy so as to lay rest his childish angst and maybe you are right..but something about Russia and Russians inspires me and I would choose tomorrow to live their if I could,I know this in my heart.Maybe it would work out for me maybe not but what the hell life is for trying don't you think?

  • fidel.mgoqi - 2012-10-17 06:23

    "The foreign backers "are telling us: 'Sort yourselves out and unite, we need a clear and credible side to provide it with quality weapons'." This sentence is quite telling! So it's going to be a fight to death, winner takes all scenario.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-10-17 06:50

      Fidel, ""winner takes all scenario"" YES, For once, you are right!! The people of Syria, will take 'all' No more dictators, tyrants, mass murderers. The MAJORITY, will be in charge, with the protection and respect of the MINORITY !!! YOU got a problem with this ??????????????????

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-10-17 06:55

      The people of Syria aren't fighting their government, they are busy with their daily chores, which is often interrupted by these terrorists.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-17 07:16

      You overlook the first eleven months of the uprising, which was totally unarmed during which Assad and his brother killed thousands of Syrians with SNIPER FIRE, detained, tortured, raped and killed tens of thousands more. What would you do? To you Nelson Mandela is a phony, a lackey of the West, a modern-day Uncle Tom. He wasn't radical enough. Yet you expect the Syrian people to lie down and allow themselves to be destroyed. You make no sense. None whatsoever.

      Shane Loxton - 2012-10-17 09:17

      Fred NM is a phony get over it, your record is scratched beyond belief. This last paragraph does not say they have not been getting weapons from day 1 just that if they stand together as one they will get BETTER weapons

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-10-17 09:38

      Fidel, ""they are busy with their daily chores,"" You live in a total fantasy world,; HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS have run away from their homes, most of these Syrians, living in refugee camps. Tanks firing rockets into apartment blocks Syrian Air Force dropping bombs on civilians, standing in a cue, buying bread !!!! Gunship helicopters shooting live ammunition at women and children!!!! Suicide bombs going off daily !!!!!! """they are busy with their daily chores""" YOU have become the CLOWN of these comment sites !!!!!

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-10-17 11:34

      Anthony, Syria has between 20-25 million citizens and the number of refugees is minuscule in that context, less than 500 000 at the most. So my point, unlike your....... still stands!

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