Taliban planned to kill girl activist

2012-10-12 18:08

Khar - A spokesperson for the Taliban's Swat Valley chapter says its leadership decided already two months ago to kill a 14-year-old activist, who was shot and seriously wounded this week - and then sent out a hit squad to carry out the job.

A spokesperson, Sirajuddin Ahmad, says Malala Yousufzai was warned three times to stop her activities promoting "Western thinking", but she did not.

He said the last warning was conveyed a week ago.

Ahmad said two of the attackers had expertise in shooting people in the head. The hit squad carefully examined the girl's route from school to her home.

The shooting of the teenage activist who spoke out in support of girls' education and against Taliban atrocities has horrified many in Pakistan and abroad.

  • hamish.drake1 - 2012-10-12 18:24

    Why has the Muslim world not come out to condem this sort of atrocity? If an American soldier had accidently killed this girl, they would be howling about "western murderers". I find it incredible that the Muslim world would support the Taliban or at least not condem them.

      hamish.drake1 - 2012-10-12 23:49

      When people of the Muslim world, stand up and protest against the abuses of the Taliban,the way they did about the Christian right wing video,is the day that peace will begin. If the extremists on both sides are not controled by society as a whole, there will always be conflict. @IslamAnswers, firstly,the Taliban has in the past ignored fatwas from various clerics in various countries. My understanding is that a fatwa is not always binding(I could be wrong). Secondly, what gives you the right to insult me? Did I insult you in some way?

      joe.bute.7 - 2012-10-12 23:54

      He's a troll. Don't worry about it

      LanfearM - 2012-10-13 09:07

      @ IslamAnswers - oh I see, and a fatwa will stop the Taliban and this kind of abuse? It never has in the past. Why are there no protests? No marching crowds? Where are the real protests? You care more about a stupid little video than you do about a 14 year old girl almost assassinated only because she wants an education, or about human rights, especially women's rights.

      shireen.abbas - 2012-10-13 09:25

      WE DO condemn iT !! AlwayS but whenever A muslim speak ouT against these thing its people like you waiting to knock every word they say , for the mere faCT that I'm a musliM !! Just like guns dnt kill , neither does religioN !! Its peopLE that kill !

      shireen.abbas - 2012-10-13 09:31

      Hamish tell me where do u live where society had put a stop to murder , rapE , theft ect !! stupid comment!

      hamish.drake1 - 2012-10-13 09:45

      @shireen, no it's not stupid Shireen, it's an ideal. Do you not understand that? If everyone in a given area/country protested against something or at least did not support the "thing", then it would wither and die. According to you and IslamAnswers, I am a fool and stupid for wanting peace in the Middle East! Get a grip. A death is death, no matter who dies.

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-10-13 11:05

      Hamish,if what you suggesting was the precedent,then every country in the world would be protesting everyday of the week.In the US 'cinema killings' how many 'Malala's' were murdered,and they havnt even found the culprit guilty yet,and i never saw any protests.I tell you what,YOU start protesting atrocities in the country you live and the rest might follow by your example.

      storm.trooper.125 - 2012-10-13 11:29

      ISLAM ANSWER..u the danm fool..HAMISH.DRAKE DONT TALK ABT PAKISTAN!!!.his talking abt the rest of the muslim countries..!! NOWHERE IN THE NEWS DID ANY MUSLIM COUNTRY CONDEM THE SHOOTING!! ur research well bfore u say whos the fool...

      yakoobm - 2012-10-13 16:58

      Whilst the shooting of the Paki girl is not acceptable and regrettable I would like to know where were all these Islamiphobic morons when Israel killed nearly 2000 children in their incursion into Lebanon and Gazza not so long ago ?

      ingwe - 2012-10-13 18:52

      @ Yakoobm this discussion is about representatives of an Islamic group Taliban shooting (attempted assassination) a 14 year old girl who was an activist for the education of young women! Your reference to Israeli/Palestinian conflict is a smoke screen. Women’s rights and education appear to be a threat to the Taliban and their ilk; an explanation from one with your knowledge as to why would help in our understanding.

  • ingwe - 2012-10-12 18:45

    Driven by the religion of peace! We are all deafened by the rest of the Muslim world condemning this barbaric act.

      rude.awakning - 2012-10-12 21:53

      islam is not responsible for this terrible deed, the taliban is! just as atheism was not responsible for the actions of hitler, stalin, mao and the likes! As a muslim i certainly do not condone such barbaric stupidity. I too was deafened by the silence of catholics and protestants alike during the fight between extremist of these two groups in ireland!

      LanfearM - 2012-10-13 09:11

      @ rude.awakning - firstly, neither Hitler nor Mao were atheists. Secondly, I must actually agree with you on one point, and that is that Islam per se is not responsible. Nowhere does it say in the qur'an that girls/women are not allowed an education. The crazy conservatism of the Taliban, and the governments in Saudi and Iran, has more to do with cultural tribalism than with Islam. These people take verses that limit women's rights in the qur'an and adhere to it in a stricter fashion than Islam itself proposes. That said, most religions in the world, especially the three Abrahamic religions, have issues with women and try to control and opress them and limit their freedom and rights.

      ingwe - 2012-10-13 09:59

      Any act committed in the name of a religion must be laid at the door of said religion! Until all followers of a religion accept responsibility for the actions of those who claim to represent their religion, atrocities in their name will continue. For too long the extremists have been sheltered by those who say nothing and do nothing to oppose and resist their madness!

  • Robert Frankol - 2012-10-12 19:48

    Moronism driven by religious stupudity

      rude.awakning - 2012-10-12 22:33

      i take it you are an atheist.

      rude.awakning - 2012-10-13 05:18


  • ameenah.jacobs - 2012-10-12 19:50

    Tribalist dogs, such big strong men trying to kill little girls!

      rude.awakning - 2012-10-12 22:02

      i wouldnt call them men as much as i would not call them muslim! I pray that they are found and punished fot this barbaric and stupid act! And that they rot in hell for bringing pain and sorrow to this girl, her family and for bringing disripute to muslims all over this world!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-13 04:23

      I applaud your opposition to the Taliban, Rude. But you're going way to far with the whole rot in hell and punishment thing. That's exactly what the Taliban do and how they think.

      rude.awakning - 2012-10-13 05:16

      Fred, thank you. I am strongly against the abuse of women, children and people in general for what ever the twisted reason. My expression was meant to show how strongly i oppose the action of the cowards and that they deserve the maximum punishment!

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-10-12 22:13

    Its ironic to hear how distorted the perception of the Taliban is with regards to women.The Taliban rose to power due to 1 incident were a post Soviet war Afghan warlord was holding a few teen girls captive and abusing them,incl rape.Mullah Omar went with 30 scholars (Taliban) and fought this powerful tyrant and his army to free the girls.They hung the warlord from the barrel of a tank in Kabul as a warning to everyone.Did youl know that fact.50 Clerics have already condemned this publicly and so do we.But i dnt believe its the Taliban.Thats all id like to say.Peace.

      rude.awakning - 2012-10-12 22:32

      fort, i did not know this! I just find it odd that people who scream 'intollerance' dont pratice what they preach! The pope nor catholism wasnt blamed for extremist actions in ireland between catholics and protestants. All germans are not blamed for the holocaust, all zimbabweans are not blamed for mugabe's zanupf! So why islam and all muslim are blamed for a handfull of etremist/fundamentalist?

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-10-12 22:56

      Rude the term (extremist) is a name that they have been labelled with.Muslims who are not attached to the worldy life become 'extremists' when the opression becomes extreme.This was not their ambition but a duty,to help those who couldnt help themselves.They, like all other patriotic soldiers put their life on the line for others.There are extremist on all sides of the fence.

      rude.awakning - 2012-10-12 23:20

      fort, let me just say that i dont condone murder as a means of keeping people in line for what ever reason political, religion, love, caste, race, tribal, or nationality. Media have reported that the taliban have claimed responsibility for the shooting. These days one have to shift for the facts through stories in the media. My prayers are with this poor girl and hope she survives!

      LanfearM - 2012-10-13 09:20

      @ rude - the main answer to your question about why all Muslims are blamed, is that Muslims don't seem to condemn it. Non-Muslims find it horrifying that you have violent protests about a video, but the collective Muslim voice is quiet about such atrocities as these. Some Muslims commentators here on N24 have even tried to defend these atrocities! As to your examples, well just after WWII all Germans WERE blamed. I personally do blame all Zimbabweans for Mugabe, because instead of doing something to get rid of the turd, they flee in their millions across our borders. No tyrant can stay in power if the majority of people oppose him and rise up against him. The Arab spring proved this. Why should Catholicism or the Pope alone be blamed for the Catholic/Protestant terrorism in Ireland? What about the Protestant churches?

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-10-13 11:17

      Lanfear,i like to know who defended this atrocity?Please dont make unfounded and irrational statements.Islam is a Religion of Peace.I am a South African,and i have spoken countlessly against the killings of the likes of 16 year old Thato Mokoka and others.Whìch religion did you blame for their killing.A 3 yr old child was raped the other day,i didnt see any religion being blamed nor any protests??

      LanfearM - 2012-10-13 13:30

      @ fort.horseman - firstly, guys like Fidel and Omar are always blaming the "evil West" for everything that Islam does. Secondly, Omar went on and on about how this is "hoax by the West" to "discredit Islam" and that it was not the Taliban that committed the atrocity, even though they claimed responsiblity for it. Tell me this then, if Islam is such a peaceful religion, why are so much violence committed in its name? Why such violence against women, other religions, other cultures? Why such violent protest because you guys are offended by a stupid little video, yet I see no protests about this act of horror? A religion such as Islam is only blamed when the perpetrators do it in the name of their religion, and when nobody speaks out against it. You guys continously talk about it being the "peaceful religion", yet you are the religion with the least peace. You say Islam respects women, yet your track-record speaks definitively against you. You say you respect other cultures and religion, yet again not only your track-record but even many verses in the qur'an says completely the opposite. Give me an example of how Islam promotes peace?

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-10-13 13:45

      @lanfear.I want peace as much as you.Right here in South Africa,we are failing to achieve it,just look at the aggression and hatred bet blacks and whites on N24 comments.What religion can we blame for that.On what merit, are we attacking the lack of peace in another country. If the Taliban did this i am very upset that they shot this child.It is beyond my ability to understand how a muslim attacks a child in this way.No reason on earth justifies it.God wil hold the culprit accountable.

      LanfearM - 2012-10-13 14:04

      @ fort.horseman - I do not agree that because we have atrocities, murder and rape, never mind the extreme racial divides that still exist, here in our country, we are not allowed to condemn violence and atrocities in other countries as well. We must condemn all violence no matter where it is in the world. This is not the first time that the Taliban acts like this towards women. Acid in the face for a girl who runs away from an abusive husband, stoning to death of a girl who was raped, no education for women was allowed under their rule, and so forth. People blame religion for their atrocities because they do it "in the name of Islam" by their own words. They warned this girl to stop promoting "western ideas". Since when is education for women a "western idea"? In moderate Islamic countries such as Jordan, their women are some of the highest educated in the world. If Islam can follow that route it will earn respect and acceptance from non-Muslims. Religion can certainly not be blamed for every atrocity in the world. But when a group of extremists commit atrocities in the name of their religion, and the majority of people following that religion don't speak out against it publically, people assume they give silent consent. Then the religion itself is blamed for the actions of its followers.

      fort.horseman.7 - 2012-10-13 15:05

      @lanfear.Your concerns are mine too.But lets be realistic here.Afghanistan is a country that has been at war for the last 40 years against basically the whole world and its arsenals.Their country was used as a battle ground for the cold war superpowers to fight each other.They have been fighting unjust wars against them as far back as they can remember.It would be unfair to expect our sanity to prevail in the chaos that has been unjustly imposed on them.What have they done to deserve this?Due to the relentless aggression on them,fighting and being on the defence is all that they know.

      LanfearM - 2012-10-14 07:02

      @ fort.horseman - I see your point, yet the responsibility is taken from them and the old USSR and US are blamed. Afghanistan has been at war with themselves for centuries. The tribal wars have ripped the country apart long before it became a Cold War battleground. Most people in Afghanistan, especially in the cities, were glad when the US toppled the Taliban. Only the most rural tribes still support them. The fight the US has there is also not against the Afghans or their shaky new government, but against the Taliban that are using guerilla tactics, hiding in the caves etc. Besides, this attack was in Pakistan, not Afghanistan, where the people are sick and tired of the Taliban threatening and intimidating them. The Pakistani government has been fighting for decades to get rid of militant Islamist extremists. Excusing them because they have been on war footing for a long time is really not the way to stop what they are doing. The Taliban brought chaos upon the Afghan people by allowing terrorist organisation to shelter in their country, by relentlessly treating their populace with cruelty and intimidation and denying them any rights, especially their women, and of course, actions like blowing up Buddha statues that are thousands of years old did not exactly endear them to the rest of the world. But anyway, I see your point, I just don't believe in absolving people of responsibility. As the saying goes "I don't care what you've been through, I can see what you've become".

  • Robert Frankol - 2012-10-12 22:52

    No I'm just anti stupidity

      rude.awakning - 2012-10-13 05:17


  • Robert Frankol - 2012-10-12 23:17

    Tip the human scale follow Revelations' plan, it must come to pass, secret shadow lies. Blue print haunting dream in which Manipulation wins, speak no hidden fears, Religion neutralized. Emerged from the dark sadist mercenary ride, realm not of this world, godless messengers. Sickless mindless hate becomes évolutions cure, planets usher in, Alignment god has died...World painted blood, no sanctuary. Slayer

  • gavin.long.94 - 2012-10-12 23:51

    This is what happens when people believe in gods. Pathetic

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-10-13 04:25

      No, no, no. This is what some un-enlightened people do in the name of their non-God.

      rude.awakning - 2012-10-13 04:59

      fred, spot on! i agree with you 1000%

  • rude.awakning - 2012-10-13 05:54

    i blame it on evolution! Some people are evolving at a really slow pace and are living as if they are still in the stone age! Believing in God has nothing to do with it , just not believing in a God has nothing to do with it! To blame an entire religion for the actions of a few are as moronic as the few itself! Its like saying catholism is responsible for the few catholic priest that was found to have abused children! Criminals will always try to justify their actions and use any excuse that come into their brainless heads! This shooting was a criminal act and they must be punished for their crime! My prayers are with the girls and that they survive this terrible ordeal!

  • scholesss - 2012-10-13 10:11

    no need to kill here. the stone age era has passed. where women were always house wives. we living in modern world now, we need to live for change. we need to grant everyone freedom right(equal male and female). otherwise poverty will prevail always

  • cellexpert - 2012-10-13 10:29

    hello everybody, i am muslim from pakistan and i would like to say something. please clear your mind from misunderstanding when taliban do such stupid things and all blame comes to whole muslim world. talibaan is a group of so called extremist who just care about themself. we also pakistanis are tired of them and being abused by talibaans. talibans are against pakistan so thats why pakistan army is fighting with taliban to chased them out. please please again i speak that talibaan don't represents good muslims. don't just throw bad thigns on muslims. talibans killed a young girl and i totally condem talibaan from bottom of my heart and i hate talibaan and whoever have a little bit love or support for them. talibans are misguided people and whole muslim world is being punished coz of talibans. we muslims are very loving, hospitable, care taker people. take an example from somalia. somalian talibans named "al-shibab" is also same group and same school of thoughts. if you ask any somali about "al-shibab" he will replay "they are not good people" i hate taliban coz they are brain washed and misguided people and they are totally against our Holly prophet Mohammed (PBUH) teachings. some muslims won't be agree what i am saying but this is truth.

      shireen.abbas - 2012-10-13 12:08

      Maybe ingwe? it is that you people are racial baised people against our religion as a wholE !and everyday there is people marching and fightin these sick warp minded people ,the taliban , BT clearly all you can seem to do Is disrespect and knock others religioN without proper knowledgE attaining to it !

      LanfearM - 2012-10-13 12:49

      @ shireen.abbas - Islam is not a race! Get that into your heads for once. So it is not "racism" to speak out against the violence and atrocities that permeates Islamic cultures. Your clergy wants holy war because of a stupid little video. But I don't see you guys marching and shouting and bombing and burning because of atrocities such as the attempted assassination of a 14 year old girl! I WILL disrespect your religion because it is not worthy of respect. If you have to demand respect for your religion, your ideas or your life philosophy, then it doesn't deserve it. Your religion will earn the respect you demand the day it starts acting in a way that is worthy of respect. Where are the outcries and condemnations against violence against women, or oppression of people with different ideas/religions/lifestyles in Islamic countries, and so forth? I see or hear no outcry about that. Only some Muslims in Pakistan itself spoke out against this atrocity, and most that are praying for her health are girls not much older than her, who probably also want an education but is denied by extremist as*holes like the Taliban. You defend these extremists just because they are Muslims. Just because they are Muslim doesn't mean what they do is right. It is WRONG.

      ingwe - 2012-10-13 17:14

      shireen what is there to respect in religions? People and their actions are respected!

  • storm.trooper.125 - 2012-10-13 11:35

    muslims says its unislamic behaviour from the taliban..but u do not see muslim countries march against taliban behaviour,,muslims can burn churches..burn embassy..can burn flags..but they cant march against their own ppl who use islam to justify for there killings..MUSLIMS DO NOT PROTEST AND MARCH AGAINST ISLAMIC EXTREMIST..!! but they want to shout and protest against a stupid video that cant hurt the soul nor the body

      LanfearM - 2012-10-13 12:55

      EXACTLY! I see no protests about this atrocious act, only a few feeble protests on websites such as N24, and then only a few. Where are those Islamic article writers that posted a dearth of articles about Islam being "demonised" and so forth? I don't see a single one of them write an article now about these atrocities that are committed in the name of Islam. They demand respect, yet they refuse to give respect to others. You are quite right, they bomb embassies, churches, innocents, burn US and Israeli flags, but an Egyptian makes an anti-Islam video in the US and suddenly they go up in flames! In our secular countries we allow them to live their lives according to their faith [within the law], we allow them to build mosques to their heart's content. But in Saudi for example, you are not allowed to build a church, you are not allowed more than one bible per person upon entry, you are not allowed to wear a sleeveless shirt if you are a woman, and so forth. We tolerate them despite all the violence and hate in their Islamic culture, yet they refuse to accept or tolerate any other religion or culture in the world. Hypocrites of the worst sort!

      LanfearM - 2012-10-15 08:55

      Stop being studid IslamAnswers - I want Muslims to march against Muslim extremism. To speak out against such atrocities, but all I hear is a deafening silence. Yes, in Norway thousands did march when Breivick killed all those children. Yes, thousands world-wide have protested against the priestly abuse of children. Yes, thousands have protested outside US embassies against their high-handed ways. Yes, thousands have marched more than once in SA against crime, especially murder and rape. See how incredibly ignorant you are, you don't even know about these marches and protests. You also very obviously try to dodge the issue by listing other countries' atrocities. Two wrongs don't make a right.

      cellexpert - 2012-10-17 18:10

      dear storm.trooper.125 for kind all of your readers, muslims are debating and marching against talibaan behaviours and there is serious fight in some muslim countries. see somalia, syria, pakistan. i am muslim and i totally bycott talibans. they are not reall muslims and not following true teachings. talibans are america's key to success. look whenever america want to destroy a country, they involve talibans. talibans are destruction for muslim world. lets unite and pray for young girl for her life.

  • storm.trooper.125 - 2012-10-13 11:58

    QURAN PROMOTES VIOLENCE The Quran: Quran (2:191-193) - Quran (2:244) - " Quran (2:216) - Quran (3:56) - Quran (3:151) - Quran (4:74) - Quran (4:76) - " Quran (4:89) - " Quran (4:95) - Quran (4:104) - Quran (5:33) - Quran (8:12) - Quran (8:15) - Quran (8:39) - " Quran (8:57) - Quran (8:59-60) - " Quran (8:65) - Quran (9:5) - Quran (9:14) - " Quran (9:20) - Quran (9:29) - Quran (9:30) - Quran (9:38-39) - " Quran (9:41) - Quran (9:73) - Quran (9:88) - " Quran (9:111) - " Quran (9:123) - " Quran (17:16) - " Quran (18:65-81) Quran (21:44) - Quran (25:52) - " Quran (33:60-62) - " Quran (47:3-4) - Quran (47:35) - " Quran (48:17) - Quran (48:29) - Quran (61:4) - Quran (61:10-12) - Quran (66:9) - "

  • storm.trooper.125 - 2012-10-13 12:00

    From the Hadith: Bukhari (52:177) - Bukhari (52:256) - Bukhari (52:220) - Abu Dawud (14:2526) - Abu Dawud (14:2527) - Muslim (1:33) - Bukhari (8:387) - Muslim (1:30) - " Bukhari (11:626) Muslim (1:149) - " Muslim (20:4645) - Muslim (20:4696) - Muslim (19:4321-4323) - Muslim (19:4294) - " Tabari 7:97 Tabari 9:69 Tabari 17:187 " Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 327 Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 990: - Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992:

      LanfearM - 2012-10-15 09:15

      Ag please, the same stupid answer christians also give, "it is out of context". Really? Then why don't you explain the context in which it was meant?

  • susanna.smit.7 - 2012-10-13 13:40

    Ban the Taliban!

      rude.awakning - 2012-10-13 22:00

      ban the tali .......ban!

  • yakoobm - 2012-10-13 16:55

    Whilst the shooting of the Paki girl is not acceptable and regrettable I would like to know where were all these Islamiphobic morons when Israel killed nearly 2000 children in their incursion into Lebanon and Gazza not so long ago ?

      ingwe - 2012-10-13 17:16

      If the "freedom fighters" stood up without human shields of women and children things might be different?

      rude.awakning - 2012-10-13 21:56

      ingwe, thats a load of bull! I can concede that innocents may die in the line of fire in the exceptional case, this was not the case with the ''world best snippers'' and '' best combatants in the world''. what goes for the goose goes for the gander! BTW... The attack on the girl NOT CONDONED!

      LanfearM - 2012-10-14 07:08

      Oh I have spoken out against Israel and their actions on more than one occassion. What they are doing is wrong. What the Palestinians are doing is also wrong. Everyone is to blame in that pathetic conflict. @ rude.awakning - it is not "a load of bull" that the insurgents in Palestine use human shields, set up weapons depots next to schools, and so forth. Been shown and proven again and again, and not just be western media. It is funny that almost nobody commenting here, for either side of this conflict, really knows the history of the region and what actually caused all this unrest and atrocities.

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