World would sacrifice Israel - Lieberman

2012-12-12 21:57

Jerusalem - Israel's hawkish foreign minister lashed out at the international community on Wednesday, criticising its policies toward the Palestinians and charging that many world leaders would readily sacrifice Israel to radical Islam just as Europe appeased the Nazis before World War II.

Avigdor Lieberman hit back at European foreign ministers for condemning Israel's plans to build settler housing in an especially sensitive area of the West Bank.

He also accused the international community of ignoring threats to Israel, including weapons smuggling by Palestinian militants and calls for Israel's destruction from Palestinian Hamas militants and Iran.

On Tuesday night, Lieberman said some of his European counterparts "regard Israel's destruction as a given”.

 On Wednesday, he accused Europeans of being prepared to abandon Israel as they gave up Czechoslovakia to the Nazis on the eve of World War II.

"Expressions and promises of commitment to Israel's security from all around the world reminds me of similar commitments made to Czechoslovakia in 1938," Lieberman told a diplomatic conference, invoking an analogy he has used before.

"My sense is that all the promises and commitments to Israel's security are mere words," he said, speaking English.

"When push comes to shove, many key leaders would be willing to sacrifice Israel without batting an eyelid, in order to appease the radical Islamist militants and ensure quiet for themselves," he said.

Mark Regev, a spokesperson for the prime minister, would not comment when asked if Lieberman's criticisms reflected government policy or his personal opinion.

The blunt-talking Lieberman appeared to be heating up his rhetoric ahead of Israel's 22 January election in an effort to impress hawkish voters.

His Yisrael Beitenu Party is running on a joint list with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud. Polls indicate the combined slate will finish first, and Netanyahu will keep his job.


  • rupesh.hari.7 - 2012-12-12 22:10

    Oh come on. If there has to be negotiations, it should come from equals, else it is not sustainable. The UN decision to grant Palestine member status has no impact on the ground. However, building setllement in that area does have impact on the ground. The two cannot be treated as the same. Israel's security is of paramount importance to most western nations, but this shouldn't come at the expense of common sense. In fact, the Israel is strengthening Hamas' hands by building these settlements.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 06:32

      There is no negotiating with an enemy who is dead-set on killing you. In the face of this, Israel is creating startegic facts on the ground to force a change in the Palestinian mind-set.

      Brownbear - 2012-12-13 10:15

      @ Rupeshhari Thats so true you cant fight fire with fire . @ Larry sound like you are the ambassador for Isreal . Are you not South Africa ? do you not remeber what aparheid did to our country . You can still sense the racisism and hate in these blogs . The Jews have double standards , they were once pursecuted by the Germans and now they want to to the same upon the Palestine people . Wake up !

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 11:18

      It is not that simple Brownbear. To have a shallow simple outlook is to bypass the truth and reality. Truth is that Israel does not practice apartheid policies on its citizens. Palestinians in West bank and Gaza are not Israeli citizens, and the issue of land and occupation cannot be conflated and compared to apartheid SA. You wake up and get some education.

      duncan.gill1 - 2012-12-13 22:08

      Why the word "sacrifice" it's no sacrifice to relinquish what is of no importance at present!

  • muhammad.akoojee - 2012-12-12 22:30

    “South Africa will never be free until Palestine is free” Nelson Mandela

      shahied.mohamed.9 - 2012-12-12 22:40

      How True !!!

      ab.normal.961 - 2012-12-12 22:44

      South Africa will never be free while the ANC is in power.

      paul.vieira.7792 - 2012-12-12 23:03

      Palestine is free to do what they want, just stop attacking Israel and Israel will stop taking counter action against Palestine. Problem is you bunch hate them and want to destroy them and the western world!

      Luba Mayekiso - 2012-12-13 01:11

      why not give us the whole Mandela quotation rather than the isolated bit. the statement referred to various conflict areas which you convenient forget. Oops, I forgot: it then doesn't serve your cause as neatly

      fidelity.mcoshi - 2012-12-13 15:00

      The 22 nations of the Arab League unanimously ratified just such an agreement in 2002.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 20:46

      What agreement did 22 arab nations ratify, Fidel?

  • chris.rams.9 - 2012-12-12 23:01

    it sounds good,let it be.

  • dbo.kacebisa - 2012-12-13 00:23

    It mindboggling tht someone somewhere still believes the bile and hogwash spewed by israel

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 11:20

      It is mindboggling that there are so many idiots on this planet who think like you.

  • jeremy.bard.31 - 2012-12-13 01:35

    The Eugene Terror(blanche) of Israel .... only ET was less obnoxious.

  • tommo.too - 2012-12-13 01:59

    Lieberman is quite right and he speaks the truth. The world knows it but will not listen. Israel is alone responsible for the safety of Israelies. Both Jewish and Arab alike.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 06:35

      Israel is the safest place for a Jew to live, nowadays.

      fidelity.mcoshi - 2012-12-13 07:38

      Anyone would be safe in a heavily fortified military outpost behind a big wall of separation! That is what Israel is, a military outpost.

      Brownbear - 2012-12-13 10:17

      @ larry , then please go and live there . We dont need or want you here! get it!

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 11:21

      I do live in Israel, and South Africa. I am a citizen of this country, and I will live here as long as it suits me. Nothing you can do about that. Get it. Good.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 14:59

      And so I should be safe and respected. After all, I am an employer and net contributor to the economy, unlike the many leeches such as yourself. - 2012-12-13 15:00

      Fidel, "Anyone would be safe in a heavily fortified military outpost behind a big wall of separation!" Sound like my house in Sandton! That is what private homes are in South Africa, military outposts of high walls, alarms, 24 hour security with dogs and electric fencing. Just like we build walls to keep the rubbish out so does Israel have every right to do so. BTW, the USA also has borders. Australia has the ocean and detention centres. South Korea has a fortified fence while India has soldiers protecting their borders. Israeli self defence is no crime fidel. If fundamentalist Islam is the problem – then democratic Israel is the solution.

  • Venessa Born Stubborn Ede - 2012-12-13 05:34

    Persecution complex Mr. Lieberman?

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 06:36

      Based on 2000 years of experience. But this time we are stronger than all of you. makes you sick, does it not?

      fidelity.mcoshi - 2012-12-13 07:24

      Jewish exceptionalism?

      irene.laskowskadebeer - 2012-12-13 07:44

      Larry, your comments are always the same; palestinians want to destroy the israelis, muslims hate jews, we poor jews are always being persecuted.... Weve heard it all. Do you not realise how racist you sound when you group together all palestinians or muslims? You cannot define a person by their faith alone, and many palestinians arnt even muslim... Your bias is astounding but then again your avatar says it all.there will never be peace as long as the zionists do as they please.

      fidelity.mcoshi - 2012-12-13 08:47

      The imagined persecution complex. The straw man that just won't fall down.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 11:26

      Imagined? My grandmother survived Auscwitz, with terrible scars and a number tatooed on her wrist. You can trifle this as much as you want, but we will be reminding you constantly. The more it irritates you the better, as far as we are concerned.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 12:10

      Mammalian, my comments are the same because the truth is constant and unwavering.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 15:03

      Firsly, there is no comparison to what my grandmother and countless millions endured. Secondly, the Palestinians are 'oppressed' due to their on-going and non-acceptance of Israel's right to exist within safe and secure borders. Ill intentions bring the consequence of ill-treatment, making the Palestinians themselves the reason for their oppression by Israel. - 2012-12-13 15:09

      Actually the saying goes, "there will never be peace as long as the Islamists do as they please." and please don’t forget the apartheid like treatment of Christians in Gaza, let alone the murder of Gays by the Islimists. The problem is not the Palestinians but the religious nut jobs they voted into power… and larrry is 100% right, read hamas charter then tell me that Islam is not a problem.

  • thembinkosi.jozie - 2012-12-13 06:51

    So Europe must say yes to your plans to build illegal settlements on Palestine land? The time of bullying the world by you and US is over All you've been doing since 1967 is stealing Palestine land Occupation breeds terrorism - 2012-12-13 15:13

      "Palestine land?" Please provide proof. The land is disputed not occupied and definitely not Palestinian. There were Jews calling this land home 2000 years before the birth of Islam yet alone of Palestinians. Jews are to this land as black are to Africa. Muslims are most welcome to live in peace like white South Africans in SA - but if they don’t they will be kicked out. Whites know peace – the religion of peace ironically knows no peace.

  • Amina - 2012-12-13 08:12

    What goes around comes around. If you steal, you get caught. The Israelies never listen to their eldest

      diana.gill.18 - 2012-12-13 09:48

      I wonder how they go around with both their hands still attached?

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 11:43

      Both hands attached, and middle fingers extended.

      diana.gill.18 - 2012-12-13 11:50

      Why fingers? Your third leg refuses to work?

  • diana.gill.18 - 2012-12-13 09:44

    Here is one more face for someone's dart board.

      dmisraelite - 2012-12-13 10:37

      I wonder if you have posted anything on this site that is positive or non racial. go sit by yourself in the corner your blatant anti semitism shows what kind of person you are... being like that is so pre 94 no likes a bigot

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 11:45

      Your face, along with your husband's, belongs at the bottom of the israeli sewer system, facing up.

      diana.gill.18 - 2012-12-13 11:51

      Larry how you know that? Have been there recently?

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 12:16

      I have contributed to that sewer system and suggest that you belong precisely beneath my contribution.

      diana.gill.18 - 2012-12-13 13:16

      No wonder you are so full of sh@t. Carry on contributing.

      dmisraelite - 2012-12-13 14:15

      hate to break it to you but we survived the Mesopotamians, romans, crusades, nazis and islamic fundamentalists (just to name a few) for over 5000 years. hate all you want, we will be here long after what ever you are have died off so get used to it. :) i sincerely hope your life gets better because lets be honest doesnt sound too good for you to feel the need to project your hate so much sending all the peace and love I can from "my kind" clearly theres none of that from "your kind"

      diana.gill.18 - 2012-12-13 18:08

      Why should not you go and improve your own life, little boy, you projecting even more hatred and poison than anyone else. Maybe you should think over your diet and start eating pork ribs? Considering you being here long time after my kind is gone, yes i can hardly argue that, as something starting with "s" doesnt not drown.

  • abuzakariyah.abrahams - 2012-12-13 10:12

    Fact1: like Hamas - Tata and Umkhonto we sizwe were labelled terrorists by apartheid gov and the west. SA will never be free until Palestine is free - Nelson Mandela Fact2: Israel is an apartheid state!

      dmisraelite - 2012-12-13 10:40

      read the comments above your Madiba quote is out of context and for point number 2 completely subjective

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 11:45

      FACT: There is no system of Apartheid in Israel.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 15:07

      Absolute TRUTH, Lesego. Name one discriminatory law in Israel's statutes. C'mon, don't be a donkey now.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 16:21

      Israeli arabs dont pay tax? they most definitely do. You really are making a fool of yourself Lesego. Let us see your reference.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 20:21

      Goes to prove your limited intelligence Lesego. The article you submit as proof that Arabs dont pay tax in Israel is about right wing election posters that were banned because they falsely made assumptions that Arabs paid 'less' tax. So you are a typical idiot believing any made up nonsense that you cannot even read properly to comprehend. shows that all your 'opinions' are self-misinformed. You are actually a waste of time. And BTW, arab Israeli citizens can buy property and live anywhere, and do business anywhere they want to in Israel. Waste of time. go find a Teletubbies blog or something more suited to your amazing intellect.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-14 11:40

      What happened Patrick/Lesego? Were you struck dumb by your own idiocy? You have just proven that nobody should take any of your comments and opinions seriously.

  • herc.poirot.35 - 2012-12-13 10:20

    The Holocaust was the most evil crime ever committed. Stephen Ambrose

  • herc.poirot.35 - 2012-12-13 10:27

    Yet, nearly 6 decades after the Holocaust concluded, Anti-Semitism still exists as the scourge of the world. Eliot Engel

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-13 20:31

      Correction, you have as much brains as an erection.

  • herc.poirot.35 - 2012-12-13 10:30

    There is nothing that compares to the Holocaust. Fidel Castro

  • herc.poirot.35 - 2012-12-13 10:32

    It is deeply shocking and incomprehensible to me that despite volumes of documentation and living witnesses who can attest to the horrors of the Holocaust, there are still those who would deny it. Mark Udall

  • allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-12-13 11:47

    Europe has been on a collective suicide mission for quite sometime now so sacrficing Isreal is not stating anything from beyond the pale. A sharp rise in attacks on Jews in Europe and calls for subdued jewish cultural expression in daily life is not trivial either. I don't think its quite at the point he is making but its not coming out of nowhere .

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