'A scammer got me to talk to him about sex and watch porn with him by promising me a fake job'

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  • During this time of the pandemic, many are desperate for jobs to gain some income to survive. While that may be, there are many vultures who are disguised as job recruiters.
  • Now that the working class has been introduced to remote working, scammers are also jumping in on the train.
  • W24 reader, Lucille James*, was scammed by one of these chancers, eight years after he (or a someone else) pulled the same scam on another woman.
  • Here is Lucille's story as told to Futhi Masilela.

It was a Sunday morning, 13 June 2021, at 11 am, when Lucille was about to have breakfast that she received a phone call from an ‘unknown’ number.

"I didn’t think it was a spam call because they wouldn’t call on a Sunday morning, so I answered the phone call, not thinking too much about it and went into my room for privacy. A man confirmed my name with me and then told me he is calling because he got a really good reference about me,” she says.

The man introduced himself as Chris, and as she was job hunting, she assumed he got her contact details on social media.

“I am an au pair and have been posting ads on Facebook looking for more part-time work, so I presumed he found my number from Facebook but had no idea how he received a reference about me without me sending my CV, but I didn’t hover over this thought too much,” shares Lucille.

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The man proceeded to ask her where she lives, to which she replied in Bloemfontein. “He sounded specifically like a ‘white’ male and middle-aged, around 35 years old. He said that he is looking for twelve women across South Africa to do product reviewing and asked if I was interested in earning some more money. I said yes because I have been looking for more work. He then told me that it’s for a new UK brand that is coming to South Africa and that three shops are opening up in SA,” she explains.

The man began to name drop to sound legit and also mentioned celebrity ambassadors. He said one shop is opening at the V&A Waterfront in three weeks and has collaborated with Cosmopolitan.

“He then goes on to explain how the whole process of the product reviewing will work and that I will receive two products every week and I will need to review them, and I get to keep the products that they send me. He tells me that my reviews will not be public; they will only go to the head of the company. He also talked about how important the product reviewing is for their business,' says Lucille.

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The man sounded professional; he used marketing jargon and complimented the woman on how articulate she was. “He uses a lot of terminologies, statistics and talks about research done in the US; this all makes him sound like this is all real,” she explains.

He then proceeded to tell her she would be reviewing lingerie and sex toys for women. After that, he asked her for her age, confirmed her email, and began asking her intimate questions.

“Then he asked me at what age I became sexually active, and I found that question a bit irrelevant, and I then became shy, but I told him 16. He said that’s a normal age to start being sexually active, and then he laughed and said I must not be shy to talk about these things with him because he is actually a sexologist," says Lucile.

"He then proceeded to ask me more intimate questions like, ‘do I have sex toys, when did I get them, and how often do I use them’. He said he needed to know this because they obviously want someone who uses sex toys often to review their products. It then got more personal as he asked how often  I ‘cum’ when using these toys, how long do these sessions of mine last, when was the last session, do I watch porn while using toys and how often I watch porn while using toys.”

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After Lucille uncomfortably opened up about her intimate life, he began guiding her to watch porn while he was on the phone with her, and although her gut feeling warned her something was up, she ignored it.

“He asked me if I am alone now and if I can go onto a computer so that we can look and review a few porn videos together. I went to my computer in my room, and he told me to go onto ‘Xhamster’ and type in ‘pmv’, and I must pick one that looks good to me, so I did," shares Lucille.

"He said I must watch it with the sounds on to get the full experience, but I told him that I have my earphones on, so he just said that’s fine. He said he was going to also watch it with me, and as the video goes on, I must say all the things I like about the video. So I did that with a 5 minute long video.”

While watching these videos, he began saying perverted things to her, “‘You like that doggy style fucking?’, ‘do you squirt or have you ever tried to squirt?’ and ‘you like those nice cum shots?’, ‘are you turned on?’ and ‘do these videos make you wet?’ He continued to ask her to watch more videos with him, but she finally refused.

She then asked him some grilling questions like confirming the name of the brand, to which he said he couldn’t disclose until the launch coming up in three weeks and he told her she needs to sign an NDA.  When she asked him where he got the reference about her, he changed his story and said from a recruitment agency, but she has never submitted her CV to one before.

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After going through this experience, she told her partner, who knew this didn’t sound right and then decided to research this man online and found no results of him. But he found a W24 article from 2013.

She realised this man had been running the same scam for eight years, and this time she was his victim. The man tried to call her again, “I got a call again on Monday afternoon at 12 from an ‘unknown’ number, and I answered, and he said, ‘Hi this is Chris, how are you doing today?’, and I immediately put the phone down and he just never called me again because he knew that I knew what was going on.”

Read the previous woman’s story here.

We’ve compiled a list of the similarities between the two women's experiences:

-         This man calls with an unknown number

-         He changes his name; in the previous story, he was Ryan, and with Lucille, he’s Chris

-         He says he’s based in Cape Town

-         He says that he is looking for 12 women across South Africa to do product reviewing and asked if they are interested to earn some more money.

-         He says he works for a UK brand that is coming to South Africa and that three shops are opening up in SA. One is opening in the V&A Waterfront

-         The UK brand has a media partnership with Cosmopolitan

-         He uses Marketing jargon, mentions statistics and talks about research done in the US

-         He promises to pay the women

-         Any age mentioned, he will say it is the target market

-         He asks for intimate details from the women

-         He says he’s a sexologist

-         He directs women to watch porn on a porn site that he mentions, all this while on the phone with them. He calls it ‘reviewing videos together’.

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