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AS IT HAPPENED: Mbeki testifies at arms deal hearing

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17 Jul 2014

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17 Jul 2014

Mbeki: I am aware of the many many allegations ... but I'm not aware of any evidence of cabinet acting in a corrupt manner.

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki: To this day, allegations are aplenty. You could fill books. But where is the evidence?

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki says Hoffman should go to the ANC for an explanation on why certain decisions were taken (Mbeki being recalled).

17 Jul 2014

Moerane says Pres. Zuma never said Former Pres. Mbeki manipulated the system and blocked inquir.

17 Jul 2014

Seriti says the question by Hoffman isn't relevant to the the terms of reference of this commission.

17 Jul 2014

Moerane says Mbeki won't be given homework, "this is not a school".

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman: It's very clear you weren't weren't high up in this (the arms deal procurement). Thank you for your evidence.

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman asks Mbeki to read the book, and specifically the bits that refer to him. Asks him to respond to what is said about him.

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki says he has not read the arms deal book "Devil in the detail".

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman brings up a third Sunday Times article.

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki: I am not sure why I must respond to opinions of newspapers.

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman brings up another Sunday Times report. It's dated 3 August 2008.

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman, who brought the article to the commission as evidence, asks who the reporter of it was because Mbeki is accusing that person of lying.

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki says the Sunday Times article "is a complete fabrication, from beginning to end". I don't know why you want to circulate what is a lie, Mbeki says.

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman says Moerane anticipated the wrong article. He'll explain... The headline is "Come clean on the arms deal, ANC tells Mbeki".

17 Jul 2014

Moerane objects to a newspaper article being used as evidence. He says it's not evidence, it's an allegation.

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman asks Mbeki if he knows about the Sunday Times. Mbeki confirms. Hoffman shows the 16 March 2008 edition.

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki confirms he remembers Schabir Shaik being convicted. The same Shaik who was freed on medical parole a few years ago.

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman says he hopes he doesn't keep too many people away from their loved ones and dinner.

17 Jul 2014

The commission resumes.

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki having a lighter moment during the break as he laughs at something his advocate says.

17 Jul 2014

And another adjurnment.

17 Jul 2014

If I've wasted your time please tell me and let's get on with the show. - Hoffman

17 Jul 2014

Seriti losing patience with Hoffman.

Manuel throws his head back and closes his eyes.

17 Jul 2014

I think Hoffman was getting choked up again. He's not even asking a question now. He's just talking a lot about something.

Hoffman tells Seriti "you are entitled to to hear hear-say evidence"

17 Jul 2014

In what's become a norm now, Moerane (Mbeki's advocate) objects to Hoffman's line of questioning concerning bribes.

This could go on for a while yet...

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman: There's ample evidence of bribery in various parts of the arms deals.

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman asked to put short questions to Mbeki instead of making long speeches.

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki: Been waiting for years for concrete allegations of bribery against ministerial committee members, and nothing.

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman says he must enlighten Mbeki as to what's in the ConCourt brief.

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki says the issues of bribes being paid out is "speculative".

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman AGAIN asked to withdraw a question about Moerane asking a "silly question". he tries to explain. Seriti stops him. After much back and forth from a rather testy Hoffman, he agrees to withdraw his comment.

Hoffman says Seriti should read the papers before the ConCourt. It's full of info that these "so-called" commissions were bribed.

17 Jul 2014

Moerane stops Hoffman - I don't see the relevance of this line of questioning, he says.

Hoffman says he'll explain Moerane.

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman: Gavin Woods resigned from Scopa in protest with the way the Mbeki government handled the arms deal investigation. Do you recall?

Mbeki: I do recall. Quite why I don't know. I'm sure it is a matter that was discussed in Parliament.

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman asks if Mbeki remembers that Schabir Shaik was arrested for his corrupt relationship with Zuma and that Mbeki wrote a report attacking (or as Mbeki puts it, critiquing) the joint investigating unit.

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki says the practice was to give an institution being audited the chance to comment, and there was nothing extraordinary.

17 Jul 2014

The ConCourt had found that it was improper for Heath, a sitting judge to chair the unit reporting to the executive

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki is doing the throat-clearing again.

Hoffman jokes that he'd rather not have Mr Moerane speak up again as they'd be there for a long time. Indeed so.

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki says they have agreed that a press conference by Lekota, Irwin etc should be done at OR Tambo airport in Jan 2001.

The press conference defended the procurement of the arms.

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman says JIT report argues that the SIU should investigate the arms deal.

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki can't remember any of the details about complaints from Auditor General".

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki says he doesn't know anything about the police investigation into the arms deal?

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki says he doesn't remember Auditor general complaining or talking about auditing the arms deal.

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki says he remembers the date the deal was signed.

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki says he doesn't recall that the Auditor General or Minister of Defense raised the matter with him (to audit Arms Deal).

17 Jul 2014

Hoffman insists he's not making this up "as we go along".

17 Jul 2014

Moerane asks that Hoffman produce the documents ... Seriti "he is in a difficult position because he is reading from a book".

17 Jul 2014

Mbeki speculates that the statement might have said Zuma was not involved in arms deal procurement.
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