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25 November 16:59

The questions session to the President is concluded. The ANC benches gives him a standing ovation. That concludes the National Assembly's business for the day. 

- Jan Gerber

25 November 16:57

25 November 16:57

UDM leader Bantu Holomisa says the events of 14 October, when members of the executive were taken hostage, shows the dangers of having quasi military bodies.

Ramaphosa says the identities of military veterans are being verified. He says not everyone who claims to be a military veteran is one.

- Jan Gerber

25 November 16:54

EFF Veronica Mente asks whether the task team wont exacerbate the military veterans' anger. Ramaphosa said he has met with military veterans and map out their needs and they reached a consensus.

He says Deputy President David Mabuza continues working on the matter. Ramaphosa says he treats it very seriously.

- Jan Gerber

25 November 16:51

Ramaphosa says this is a new question. He says he has appointed a panel to investigate the July unrest. They were suppose to report back a week or two ago, but they have asked for an extension. He says the report will allow him to look at some of the failures and it will help him determine what action to be taken.

- Jan Gerber

25 November 16:50

Steenhuisen says they welcome the justice that will come for military veterans. He asks why there isn't a presidential task team for the July unrests.

- Jan Gerber

25 November 16:48

Mmutle asks whether government will consider setting a side of its procurement plan to empower military veterans. Ramaphosa says yes, they want to do whatever they can to empower military veterans.

- Jan Gerber

25 November 16:46

25 November 16:45

Provincial offices have been capacitated to assist military veterans at provincial level. A moratorium on applications for education support has been lifted and the Department of Military Veterans is now receiving and processing new applications.

Ramaphosa says military veterans face many complex challenges.

- Jan Gerber

25 November 16:44

25 November 16:43

Ramaphosa says there has been progress in reviewing the Military Veterans Act. The department of Military Veterans will be restructured after the act is amended. Costing is underway for the pension policy.

- Jan Gerber

25 November 16:42

25 November 16:41

25 November 16:41

Ramaphosa is now answering the final question, by ANC MP Thabo Mmutle: How far is the Presidential Task Team on Military Veterans in addressing the issues raised by the military veterans who took an unprecedented approach to highlight the challenges they are facing by holding members of the executive hostage in Irene, Pretoria on 14 October 2021 and what steps have been taken to respond to some of the immediate challenges raised by the military veterans?

- Jan Gerber 

25 November 16:28

25 November 16:27

Ramaphosa denies that Energy Minister Gwede Mantashe is a fossil fuel dinosaur. "He is a coal miner. His love for coal is deep. His love for coal miners is deeper."

- Jan Gerber

25 November 16:17

Ramaphosa is now answering a question by ANC MP Thokozile Malinga: With reference to the agreement that he recently announced as confirmed at the meeting of the Climate Change Conference of the Parties 26 that the Republic will receive R131 billion in grants and loans from four countries to fund its transition from coal and to assist Eskom in speeding up its new energy generation projects, how will the agreement help Eskom deal with its current challenges and what measures will be put in place to ensure that the transition is just to the workers and communities who depend on the coal-fired power stations for their livelihoods?

- Jan Gerber 

25 November 16:17

Ramaphosa said the R131 billion in funding South Africa would receive from the outcomes of the COP meeting in Glasgow would not be used to pay off any part of Eskom's debt.

- Khulekani Magubane 

25 November 16:16

"We are looking for an energy architecture that will support the economy," Ramaphosa said about the restructuring of Eskom.

- Khulekani Magubane

25 November 16:14

Ramaphosa said while the process has taken a long time, the improved financial management and governance position were the derivatives that government hoped for in its plans to break the ailing power utility down into three entities.

- Khulekani Magubane

25 November 16:13

The relationship between Ramaphosa and DA leader John Steenhuisen is much better at this question session than it was the previous time.

Steenhuisen said it is hard to be the opposition today, as he agrees with many of the things Ramaphosa is saying.

For the second time today, Ramaphosa seems favourable to the DA's plans to devolve energy provision to municipal level.

Earlier, he supported the idea that municipalities should be able to procure electricity from independent power producers, and now he said he is willing to relook ministerial discretion in allowing municipalities to procure renewable energy.

- Jan Gerber

25 November 16:12

Inkatha Freedom Party MP and chair of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts Mkhuleko Hlengwa brought Ramaphosa's attention to Eskom's massive debt and costs in the construction of Medupi and Kusile.

He asked Ramaphosa what the key primary focus of government would be to ensure Eskom or the three entities left in its restructuring will be run with prudent financial principles.

- Khulekani Magubane

25 November 16:10

In a supplementary question, DA leader John Steenhuisen asked Ramaphosa if he would reconsider regulations that give Minister of Mineral Resources and Energy Gwede Mantashe discretion on the scope of renewables that can be used.

Ramaphosa said he would like to remove as many impediments on the use of renewable energy as possible at all spheres of government.

He said South Africa understood the dangers of a highly monopolised energy generation system all too well.

- Khulekani Magubane

25 November 16:07

Ramaphosa said government must not lag behind technological opportunities in the transition that the private sector is already taking advantage of.

He said SA has an opportunity to be a trailblazer in hydrogen energy generation.

- Khulekani Magubane

25 November 16:06

"We have been trailblazers in many things as a country, and we could be on the cutting edge as trailblazers in the just transition. This offers us a great opportunity and it is an opportunity that we should not fob off. We should go into it with all that South Africans can take up," said Ramaphosa.

- Khulekani Magubane

25 November 16:04

ANC MP and chair of the portfolio committee on mineral resources and energy Sahlulele Luzipo asked Ramaphosa what contingency interventions were in place to mitigate against any negative impact from the decommissioning of coal plants.

Ramaphosa said South Africa's transition was "pregnant" with opportunities to explore new sectors in the economy.

He mentioned electric cars, whose sales were gaining traction globally and battery manufacturing.

- Khulekani Magubane

25 November 16:01

EFF MP Omphile Maotwe asked Ramaphosa how much of the R131 billion in funding would support Eskom's just transition plans.

Ramaphosa said a significant amount would go towards this purpose, as Eskom has "embraced the renewable energy sector and will be entering that sector and playing a key role".

He said Eskom would also focus on retraining and reskilling workers in renewable energy application.

- Khulekani Magubane

25 November 15:59

Maotwe says perhaps Ramaphosa must discipline the Speaker again. "She's a problem." Mapisa-Nqakula doesn't respond.

EFF MP Hlengiwe Mkhaliphi also complains about how Mapisa-Nqakula handled the point of order against Maotwe.

- Jan Gerber

25 November 15:57

“In the end you will have the two (renewables and fossil fuels) side by side. The Integrated Resource Plan looks at all sources of energy, relying on wind, sun, nuclear, fossil fuel and gas. The whole mix has to be put in place. We don’t want to do anything that will be detrimental to our energy needs,” said Ramaphosa in response to Galo’s question.

- Khulekani Magubane 

25 November 15:57

EFF MP Omphile Maotwe asked the follow-up question. The ANC objects, saying she casts aspersions on Ramaphosa and Speaker Mapisa-Nqakula asks Maotwe to withdraw, which she does. 

- Jan Gerber

25 November 15:54

25 November 15:53

"IRP 2019 allows for the decommissioning of a number of coal power plants that have reached the end of their life. The extent to which this will be done will depend on funding and support for a just transition," says Ramaphosa.

He said coal will remain part of the energy mix beyond 2026, but some power stations would have to be closed down as they have reached the end of their life cycle.

- Khulekani Magubane

25 November 15:52

Ramaphosa says the Integrated Resource Plan is a living document, looking at all sources of energy.

- Jan Gerber

25 November 15:51

Ramaphosa says coal will remain part of the energy mix beyond 2030.

- Jan Gerber

25 November 15:51

African Independent Congress MP Mandela Galo  asked how Ramaphosa intended to realign the outdated Integrated Resource Plan 2010-2030 policy, which still places coal at 46% of the Republic’s energy security by 2030.

Ramaphosa said the Integrated Resource Plan was the main guiding document for energy up to 2030. He said energy planners took protection of the environment into account when developing the 2019 iteration of the IRP.

- Khulekani Magubane

25 November 15:50

25 November 15:50

Ramaphosa now answers AIC leader Mandla Galo's question: In light of the United States of America, the United Kingdom, France, Germany and the European Union committing a total amount of R131 billion to boost the Republic’s renewable energy stream, and in view of the fact that he set up the Inter-Ministerial Committee on Energy and assesses the performance of energy line-function portfolios, how does he intend to realign the outdated Integrated Resource Plan 2010-2030 policy, which still places coal at 46% of the Republic’s energy security by 2030, in comparison to nuclear that is placed at 13% and wind at 11% of the Republic’s energy security by 2030?

- Jan Gerber 

25 November 15:49

FF Plus MP Michal Groenewald disagrees that coalitions lead to instability. He says it is the future. Ramaphosa says this is new terrain for us, our democracy is still very young.

Ramaphosa says what happened recently doesn't inspire much confidence, but it should be ensured that coalitions work. "What we should focus our eyes on, all this should not hamper service delivery."

- Jan Gerber

25 November 15:46

DA leader John Steenhuisen thanks Ramaphosa for the "maturity" of his answer. Steenhuisen says cadre deployment is responsible for the failure of service delivery. "The answer is very simple and straightforward to Honourable Steenhuisen." Ramaphosa says capable people should be put in position based on their ability to do the work. "It should be because you are good at what you do."

- Jan Gerber

25 November 15:33

Ramaphosa said part of the reason why he phoned the mayors is to depoliticise local government. He says people just want services.

- Jan Gerber

25 November 15:28

25 November 15:28

Ramaphosa says he intends to set up a unit in the Presidency focusing on local government. He is concerned that money is often returned after municipalities didn't spend it.

- Jan Gerber

25 November 15:26

Ramaphosa says it is essential that hung councils works and deliver the services they need to. He says this will depend on the political will and capabilities of the parties and individuals involved. Ramaphosa said he phoned the new metro mayors, from which ever party, to say that he looks forward of working with them.

- Jan Gerber

25 November 15:25

25 November 15:24

25 November 15:23

Ramaphosa says hung councils is the outcome of a democratic process "we should be pleased about". He said on 1 November South Africans voted freely and fairly for the candidates and parties of their choice. He said this should be accepted.

- Jan Gerber

25 November 15:23

Ramaphosa will now answer ANC MP Sakumzi Somyo's question: Given that the 2021 Local Government Elections produced a scenario where we are confronted as a nation with 70 hung municipal councils, and noting that the history of our democratic local government, with a few notable exceptions, suggests that hung municipal councils tend to produce instability and become a significant threat to service delivery and compromise management of local government responsibilities, how can the Government create a predictable political and administrative interface and environment for communities under such councils to ensure that they enjoy stability, service delivery and regulatory accountability?

- Jan Gerber

25 November 15:19

25 November 15:18

Renewable energies will focus on workers and communities, Ramaphosa says adding that already workers are being reskilled and retrained.

- Jason Felix

25 November 15:10

Ramaphosa says wealthy nations damage the environment which led to climate change that is ravaging the whole world.

- Jason Felix

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