"The centre is not holding they lost control long time ago," says United Democratic Movement (UDM) leader Bantu Holomisa of leadership in the majority party.
Holomisa was a member of the African National Congress (ANC) National Executive Commission (NEC) in Parliament in 1994. He since co-founded the UDM and has lead it ever since. Asked about the ANC's current NEC, he said it was run by factions.
The day after Deputy Minister of Finance Mcebisi Jonas announced he was approached by the Guptas for the position of Minister last year, Holomisa joined News24 Live's Erin Bates in studio.
Watch the clip above.