Cape Town - England batsman James Vince admits that the delivery that got him out on day four of the third Ashes in Perth would have dismissed him even if he faced it another "20 or 30 times."
Vince, who was on 55, was clean bowled by Mitchell Starc after the Australia left-arm fast bowler came around the wicket to the right-handed Vince and got the ball to straighten off a crack that has developed on the WACA surface.
It was described by some as the one of the "balls of the 21st century" and it certainly is difficult to see any righ-hand batter not getting out to that sort of the ball.
Vince said: "It's still frustrating to get out but they're a little easier to take than the ones where you feel you're at fault yourselves.
"If I faced that another 20 or 30 times, I think that would get me out every time. Give him some credit there and sweep it under the carpet and move on.
"We said that the ones that had hit the cracks had done too much and weren't in danger of the stumps. His angle, coming wide of the crease, the ball looked as if it looked like it was going down leg.
"For the right armers that perhaps start straighter, if it deviates it probably misses the stumps."
Vince was one of four England wickets to fall on the fourth day as the tourists battle to save the Test, and the Ashes, with them still 127 runs from making Australia bat again before rain brought an early end to proceedings.
With first innings centurions Dawid Malan and Jonny Bairstow still at the crease, and more rain forecast on day five, Vince sill has hopes of saving the Test which means England will still have a chance of retaining the Ashes.
The Hampshire skipper said: "We try to put the rain to the back of our minds. A couple of days ago today was supposed to be more of a washout than it wasn't. I haven't seen a huge amount of rain during the time I've been in Perth.
"The two guys at the crease spent a lot of time there in the first innings in slightly different conditions, but we've got to have belief that we can stay in the series and get over the line tomorrow.
"It's going to be tough. I'm sure there will be some good balls flying about out there but these two showed in the first innings that they can occupy the crease for a long time. Hopefully we can get off to a good start in the morning."